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To: LongElegantLegs
But ALL illegal aliens are criminals. By entering the country without going through customs, they are breaking our laws.

1. You show your ignorance of the subject. Historically passing through "Customs" has nothing to do with being a legal or illegal alien. "Customs" has to do with imports brought into the country... fruit that might have insects, drugs that are illegal, liquor that should be taxed, that originated in a boycotted Cuba, etc.

2. Calling illegal aliens is equivalent to calling me a "criminal" for exceeding the speed limit. I speed and accept no negative label until the police catch me. And then only when I plead guilty or am found guilty in court. When I am let go with a "warning" or a "traffic school" that does not go on my record, I am not a speeder in the eyes of the law.

The same is true of illegal aliens. To deny otherwise is to be out of touch with reality.

Yes, there are problems with immigration. But arguments are not advanced on our side with over-the-top Al Sharpton type hyperbole.

118 posted on 09/25/2005 1:08:48 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: spintreebob
1. Alright, I'll play. When, exactly, do they become illegal? If not when they enter, then when they get a job? Perhaps when they accept wages that have not been taxed? Or maybe not until they sign up for their first social program? You tell me.
The term INS escaped me, and it irritates me that you would pick that one bit to harp on.
2. I am loathe to even address this point. It's almost too asinine to approach. To the law, a speeder may be nothing until he is caught. To me, the jackass who goes tearing down a residential street at 70 mph is a speeder.
122 posted on 09/25/2005 1:42:47 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Fines for excess bleeding.)
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To: spintreebob

You will never get anywhere with these arguments with some of these people, and the fact that you are right only pisses them off more. Keep it up and they will accuse you of being a DU troll.


149 posted on 09/26/2005 3:26:14 PM PDT by chronic_loser
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