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Even with head start, Houston had a problem
Waterbury Republican-American ^ | September 24, 2005 | Erin McClam (A.P.)

Posted on 09/24/2005 1:13:44 PM PDT by Graybeard58

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To: Graybeard58
Texas rocked.
They identified problems in their plan and are correcting some of them for the return trip.
One day turn around.
Nice job Lone Star.
41 posted on 09/24/2005 1:56:21 PM PDT by JamminJAY (This space for rent)
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To: willyd

Yes I watched the traffic jams on TV until our power went off last night. I also talked to people who turned around after going 10 miles in 8 hours. Other people I know unpacked their cars and went back inside, having never left the driveway. What I meant by my other post was that there was nothing unusual going on and the traffic was horrible.


42 posted on 09/24/2005 1:56:35 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Tall_Texan
So I guess this idea won't "fly."


43 posted on 09/24/2005 1:56:54 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: IronMan04

Sorry to disappoint, but they called in the military to do it. Did you eat crab cakes for lunch?


44 posted on 09/24/2005 1:58:15 PM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (You should post without reading once a day. If my post makes no sense, I am filling my quota.)
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To: WV Mountain Mama

It was on the news, they used c-130 planes and it showed them using the baggage cars to carry stretchers. Nursing homes were evacuated, etc by bus or whatever other means they needed.



Don't know about all the areas but I was passed by several convoys of ambulances, etc headed northward. Then you'd see a line of them coming back south for another trip.


45 posted on 09/24/2005 2:00:50 PM PDT by deport
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To: WV Mountain Mama

If true it looks like the Democratic Mayor of Houston did a great thing.


46 posted on 09/24/2005 2:01:24 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: Graybeard58
I am sick of uninvolved detached Monday morning quarterbacks, especially from idjits in northeast la, la, land.

Winter is coming, smug and pontificating, self aggrandizing, New England & NYC liberal types may get their comeuppance. A bad winter with many feet of snow and bitter cold could give them a real jolt of reality. If so, I for one have my answer ready for them and theirs; I could care less, where were your plans, why didn't you implement them, in short, go pound sand jerk offs.

47 posted on 09/24/2005 2:01:31 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: JamminJAY

It sure looked to me that they did a better job in Houston than the people responsible for the New Orleans evacuation. Houston is a much larger city than New Orleans and should have had many more problems with evacuation because of that.

Some people are reluctant to praise the effort of Houston officials for fear that the democrat Mayor might get some of the credit for it. So what if he does? Rake him for some of his failed policies. I am not at all familiar with Houston city government but if it is like democrat run government everywhere else in the country it is riddled with failed policy.


48 posted on 09/24/2005 2:04:25 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: IronMan04

He did. I am surrounded by government democrats in this state, and I hope that they could learn from such a botched LA attempt. Though, we don't get hurricanes, we do get lots of floods.


49 posted on 09/24/2005 2:06:41 PM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (You should post without reading once a day. If my post makes no sense, I am filling my quota.)
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To: tessalu
It seems to me that there should have been some traffic controls.

On-ramp metering is more important than opening the reverse direction lanes. The capacity of a freeway is a function of the average vehicle speed. It's better to keep cars queued on side streets rather than turning the freeway capacity into a 1 mph virtual parking lot. They could have evacuated 100 times faster with one metering traffic cop posted at every on-ramp.

50 posted on 09/24/2005 2:07:58 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: IronMan04

Are you saying the 2,000 drowned buses could have been used to evacuate the poor of NO if mayor Noggin Head had utilized that time to make a few return trips?


51 posted on 09/24/2005 2:08:22 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: IronMan04
I did not know that the City of Houston owned a fleet of C-130's.
They don't..... but others so.

Perry also ordered 1,750 Army and Air National Guard personnel to position themselves as Joint Task Force Rita between Austin and San Antonio, a Guard spokesman said. The task force members are experts in medical and rescue operations, transportation, supply distribution, security and road clearing missions. Among their equipment will be 11 military helicopters and four C-130 transport planes.

In addition, the Texas Air National Guard will begin flying Katrina evacuees from vulnerable shelters in Houston to Fort Chaffee, Ark., and a site in Tennessee, a FEMA official said.


52 posted on 09/24/2005 2:08:39 PM PDT by deport
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To: Graybeard58
If Rita would have gone over Galveston and Houston as a CAT 4 or 5 you would now be seeing the failures of the evacuation as you did in New Orleans. However, as one who did have to evacuate New Orleans it went rather smoothly considering it only took 15 hours to get to Austin as opposed to 20-24 hours to get from Houston to Austin for Rita.
53 posted on 09/24/2005 2:10:06 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

Two Thousand Buses?


Where did you get that number?


54 posted on 09/24/2005 2:10:59 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: deport
The TxDOT coordinated evacuation from Houston was a disaster complicated by Contraflow lanes being opened very late in the process and people who left far west and north Houston who could have stayed home and been safe.
55 posted on 09/24/2005 2:13:58 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: Ditter

I see...you are saying the media is trying to invent a story again? I agree with you...


56 posted on 09/24/2005 2:15:38 PM PDT by willyd (Good Fences Make Good Neighbors)
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To: Larry Lucido
Obviously, we need to install a vacuum-tube system like at banks to "chute" entire families out of town. Just drop the tube in the slot, hit "send," and chute yourself to the city of your choice.

I expect that you're semi-serious but London's first "tube" was pneumatic and worked just fine. It has long since gone to electric trains but the name remains.

Funny, I thought the same thing when I read the post. Not vacuum, more like "mag-lev" but underground, why not?

Regards,
GtG

57 posted on 09/24/2005 2:19:14 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: IronMan04
If Rita would have gone over Galveston and Houston as a CAT 4 or 5 you would now be seeing the failures of the evacuation as you did in New Orleans

That's conjecture isn't it? Since it didn't happen. A successful evacuation takes place before a hurricane hits, not after.

Nagin let school busses sit idly by while demanding Grayhound busses from the feds. That's a complete failure of leadership.

58 posted on 09/24/2005 2:21:01 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: TheMom

"I said the same thing last night on one of the hurricane threads and was called an idiot by several people."


Well, I have been saying it since Wednesday, and no one has called me an idiot yet. So feel flattered. People *listen* to you. They apparently do not listen to me.


59 posted on 09/24/2005 2:24:03 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: Graybeard58
Somewhere between 80 and 90% of New Orleans evacuated before Katrina hit.

I call that a successful evacuation.
60 posted on 09/24/2005 2:25:20 PM PDT by IronMan04
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