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Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part VIII
www.freerepublic.com | September 24, 2005

Posted on 09/24/2005 9:58:36 AM PDT by Howlin

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To: PISANO

That part of my post was in bold,indicating that I was quoting the previous post. INW,that was not MY opinion.


1,501 posted on 09/25/2005 8:29:50 AM PDT by mrsmel
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To: conservative in nyc
This emphasis my point and the bottom line of this how tragedy happened. No matter how good your engineering and construction there is no way levees can be 100% fool proof. You need to be like the Dutch and have a redundant system of concentric rings of levees backed up by low-lying land that can be flooded in case of and outer ring failure. Until EVERYBODY gets this NOLA will be subject of repeats of this episode.
1,502 posted on 09/25/2005 8:30:26 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida
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To: No Blue States
The Trinity is just now reaching flood stage at Goodrich

There are some maps and projections of this from yesterday too. It's predictable given the release at the dam at Lake Livingston.

Post 680, this thread.

1,503 posted on 09/25/2005 8:33:00 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ArmyBratsMom
Don't know if you've seen this thread or not ... but it is worth a look. The damage IS that bad ...

"Rita Damage to SW Louisiana worse than being reported"

I saw those pictures earlier, and this is what I feared, that all those little coastal towns had been erased. Even though the MSM isn't showing it, it's the only conclusion I could draw based on how far the surge went in, as far north as I-10.

The MSM simply doesn't care. The MSM is lying in wait in Houston, waiting to pounce on anyone returning to the city and ask them to relate their nightmarish experiences in the worst evacuation in history. That's precisely the spin the MSM will try to put on it. Hopefully some Texans will respond accordingly to the questions they'll be asked by these fools, and show those fools what makes then Texans.

The MSM's post-Rita mission is perfectly clear. The reaction of Texas to Rita reveals to anyone with the eyes to see how inept, how irresponsible, and how criminal Louisiana's reaction to Katrina was. The MSM cannot let this utterly obvious contrast be seen by the world. After all, they believe it is their duty to TELL us what we see instead of letting us see on our own. And so they descend upon Houston to drum into our heads, 24/7, that the evacuation was a failure and that it had a myriad of problems. They've all been given their orders, and like robots following their programming, this is what they will do every single day now for the foreseeable future.

1,504 posted on 09/25/2005 8:35:12 AM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: ekwd

My brother has two or three of'em in his yard, too...but last I heard, no big trees down at his house...although his freezer leaked.


1,505 posted on 09/25/2005 8:35:16 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: silentknight

"Karita"

Excellent!

Or Ritrina - sounds like a kidney condition.


1,506 posted on 09/25/2005 8:35:44 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida
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To: Mo1

Those houses are in about 2-3 feet of water and that ship even empty as you can tell is still drawing 10-15 feet. It would run aground if it headed that way, before it gets to them.


1,507 posted on 09/25/2005 8:39:38 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida
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To: Cboldt

Radio feed:

23rd and broadway mobil in Galveston has gas.

Yale at 4th(Heigths?): Orange juice factory amonia leak. Close windows and shut off AC if in this area.

Ps: From what I can tell the rain totals were not that great above the Lake Livingston area, the 80k cfs is mostly due to the emergency release at the dam to draw it down for repairs. Its a good time to see clear skies and a falling lake level. I notice on your link the release will come up just short of major flood stage.


1,508 posted on 09/25/2005 8:41:19 AM PDT by No Blue States (FW)
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To: jeffers

Brillant post.

Living by the sea is no big deal if you got half a brain. Building subsidized housing is a foolish thing to do. If you can't affort you own home how can you be expected to have the sense to get out of the way of a hurricane.


1,509 posted on 09/25/2005 8:41:51 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida
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To: Rennes Templar

There is a conspiracy (I hope) to keep the po' people out of NOLA. It is called building codes.


1,510 posted on 09/25/2005 8:46:45 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida
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Radio feed:

Huntsville and Conroe..traffic getting thick.

Ice $2:50 a bag Kroger somewhere.

Barge free at trinity river bridge at 59, expect a detour there.

300,000 Centerpoint customers still without power.

Willis w/o power.

Traffic expected to get worse as the day goes on.






1,511 posted on 09/25/2005 8:46:49 AM PDT by No Blue States (FW)
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To: ekwd
May I answer your question?

I knew that the Hurricane was gonna move up the coast towards La. as early as Wed. nite because I stopped watching the local TV stations here in Houston where I live. Very late Wed. nite, the NOAA Website showed the possible strike track move from Matagorda to Freeport, a significant event. On the next update, 4 hours later, it moved again to Galveston and Houston. Clearly, the juxtaposition of the 2 High Pressure systems over Texas was having a strong influence on this storm. By early thurs. morning, the line had moved to just right of East Bay and Trinity Bay. At that point, MSNBC and Max Mayfield of the Hurricane Center in Miami started predicting, with confidence, that the storm would strike the coast early Sat. morning near Port Arthur. Having lived here for 57 years now and watched a number of hurricanes with interest, it was clear to me at least that this forecast was a good one. I then made the informed decision to stay. Here in Clear Lake, we had barely an inch of rain and winds that peaked at maybe 50 miles per hour.

1,512 posted on 09/25/2005 8:49:37 AM PDT by MAWG (In the shadows, on permanent ambush duty.)
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To: No Blue States
From what I can tell the rain totals were not that great above the Lake Livingston area, the 80k cfs is mostly due to the emergency release at the dam to draw it down for repairs.

You are correct. The draw down is to inspect damage due to displaced rip rap, and to add rip rap as required. The Lake is not "too high" by any stretch, and there wasn't enough rainfall to cause trouble.

The media likes to keep it simple though, so they can understand it themselves. In their minds, Rita caused rain, so the dam has to be opened to let the rain out. Idiots, they are.

That link is fun - one can go to upstream and downstream monitoring points. There will be some flooding - the closer to the release, the higher the water.

1,513 posted on 09/25/2005 8:53:02 AM PDT by Cboldt
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Radio feed:

Pasadena mayor: Welcome back...90% power restored.

Amonia leak not orange juice factory, some chemical plant(400 blk Yale)

Valve turned off, reporter no longer smells amonia.


1,514 posted on 09/25/2005 8:53:13 AM PDT by No Blue States (FW)
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To: All
This photo is absolutely chilling:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1490933/posts?page=47#47

This is Cameron, LA. This looks far worse than what we saw along the Mississippi coast. In Mississippi, you could see the rubble and debris of former houses, like piles of matchsticks. What we see in the photo of Cameron, I can only describe as what a neighborhood would look like if it had been burned to the ground.

And Drudge has as his top headline: RELIEF AS HURRICANE FAILS TO CAUSE DEVASTATION

Matt, what's your definition of devastation? I know the MSM's definition is a breached levee. Where does Cameron fit in?

1,515 posted on 09/25/2005 8:55:26 AM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: GummyIII
"Well, I'm certainly no CNN fan, but I've been watching both FNC and CNN. CNN has had better coverage during both hurricanes with less histrionics."

I agree. I really do not watch CNN because the politics is pure socialism. But Fox has done a terrible job. I wonder if it is due to $$. Seems like if they send out a reported they need to get a report even if nothing is going on (i.e. that oldish info-babe in Galveston). They really, really have NO clue on geography. Roger Ailes, "buy your folks a MAP."

I hope they dump this Hemmer. He could get a job bailing out the ninth ward. Who cares of it take month to pump it out. People had a few days to go back and look, but if you live in a low-lying area you HAVE to be prepared to loose everything.

Now this FNC dope is talking about getting back to normal. I can tell you from Punta Gorda it takes YEARS.
1,516 posted on 09/25/2005 8:57:51 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida
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To: cajungirl
Regarding Acadian Ambulance.... http://2theadvocate.com/stories/083005/new_evac001.shtml

Richard Zuschlag, head of Acadian Ambulance, said his firm has scaled back operations around the state to help move what he said may be 2,000 patients in the New Orleans area. The process could take four to five days, he said.


Lobbyist reports filed on Blanco One group spent $1,988 for party
A Blanco political backer, [Richard Zuschlag] detailed the most spending that required the reporting of individual names.


http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/theadvocate/883943721.html?did=883943721&FMT=ABS&FMTS=FT&date=Aug+18%2C+2005&author=MARSHA+SHULER&pub=Advocate&desc=Lobbyist+reports+filed+on+Blanco+One+group+spent+%241%2C988+for+party
1,517 posted on 09/25/2005 8:58:03 AM PDT by LA Woman3
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To: laz

You're absolutely right, laz. The MSM has their leftist marching orders. Regardless of what they say or do, I have faith that Texans will help get the real story out there - by continuing to show them how it's done ... by picking themselves up, dusting off, and then jumping in to help their neighbors to the east. I'm a displaced Native Texan, originally from the Houston/Galveston area, and I couldn't be prouder of how Mayor White and Gov Perry (Gig 'em!) have handled this disaster.


1,518 posted on 09/25/2005 8:59:22 AM PDT by ArmyBratsMom
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To: Howlin

The sick, twisted, unfettered by values or morals flip side of it, sure.

That is NOT what Texans do.


1,519 posted on 09/25/2005 9:00:54 AM PDT by Spktyr (Dallas TX (Overwhelminglysuperiorfirepowerandthewillingnesstouseitistheonlyprovenpeacesolution))
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To: Colorado Doug
I wonder if they will ever clean out the entire rats nest down there.

No.

1,520 posted on 09/25/2005 9:02:30 AM PDT by Torie
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