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Shuma the German Shepard service dog - MO gal will not return beloved pet
KCTV5. ^ | Sept. 23, 2005 | kctv

Posted on 09/24/2005 5:44:30 AM PDT by Former Military Chick

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To: Former Military Chick
I wonder if there is some way the contract can be voided as having been signed under duress. Or can he get some kind of relief under ADA from the contract? My guess is that it wouldn't take much to get a Judge to go his way; probably most Judges would want to get him back the dog, just need a legal theory on which to do it.

I hope a good old fashioned shaming will wake up this woman and her family to the cruelty of what they have done. Social disgrace can be used in the service of good!

21 posted on 09/24/2005 6:23:45 AM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: Former Military Chick

This story smells. The Americans with Disabilities Act forbids discrimination because a person has a service dog. Service dogs are allowed, by law, to go anywhere the person goes.

Not only that, I'd be surprised if the Service Organization that provided this man's dog (he DID get it from a qualified service organization, didn't he?) has a contract that doesn't allow him to sell or give the animal away.


22 posted on 09/24/2005 6:24:47 AM PDT by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: usmcobra

Is that a Sammy or an Eskie? How did you train it to go to Quik Trip for beer? We need to get our Bear to do that!

Bear would like to bite that lady in the buttocks.


23 posted on 09/24/2005 6:27:58 AM PDT by Honeybunch ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." ~Rudyard Kipling)
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To: Darnright

"This story smells"
...

Yes it does smell. Lets not forget the cocaine snorting journalist in New York who made up all of his newspaper stories. I'm sure he wasn't the first or the last.


24 posted on 09/24/2005 6:29:31 AM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: Former Military Chick

Unfortunately, there are some people who are immune to shame. People can write, picket, and make phone calls, and it won't do any good. The real owner is going to have to go to court.

I don't understand why a service dog was refused in the first place. It doesn't matter. This is a person's pet, and should have been given back to the rightful owner, under the circumstances. The signed paper is problematic, however : (


25 posted on 09/24/2005 6:35:36 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: Darnright; tuffydoodle

I dont think it matters one 1 iota whether it was a true service dog or not. This was their family dog, they have lost enough and in desperation had to find somewhere for their beloved pet. To be so cruel as Nevill, is sickening.


26 posted on 09/24/2005 6:36:08 AM PDT by Rose of Sharn (I get the best answers when i talk to myself!)
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To: Former Military Chick

Thanks FMC. Frequently an initial read of such an article renders an inaccurte conclusion. But I don't believe that to be so in this case. This one, given the reason for not returning the dog, seems to be as terrible no matter how many times one reads it. I wish him well.


27 posted on 09/24/2005 6:36:11 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: Former Military Chick

A similar story occurred last year, in the San Francisco area, from what I remember. The animal got away somehow (through no fault of the owner, I believe), and the new family wanted to keep it because they became "attached" to it after a very short period of time.

Similar public outrage occurred, and the animal was soon returned to its previous owner. With the outrage expressed here (and maybe some cash to entice this cruel woman to give up the dog), I'm sure the dog will eventually go back to the man who had to evacuate.


28 posted on 09/24/2005 6:50:09 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: Former Military Chick

Please keep us posted


29 posted on 09/24/2005 6:50:19 AM PDT by Kimmers
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To: Former Military Chick

The entire story sounds like a TALL TALE load of B.S.!

service dog? for what service? Interesting that this knee-jerk term is used repeatedly with no explanation! Alarm bells for a pack of lies!

These "we love animals more than humans" people have caused more havoc in rescue and recovery attempts than either of the two hurricanes!

"we won't leave without our fluffy" they whine taking up valuable time and SPACE for a human being and food for humans on evacuation buses.

You would rather have a human die than a dog or cat? Then stay where you are because the NUMBER ONE RULE in real survival (not pissy tv shoes) is PRESERVATION of the SPECIES.

That being said - this family made it up there - I would bet that a price was negotiated and fairly and honestly paid (by the Missourian) and after the fact, thanks to a leftist reporter or ASPCA/ELF/ALF terrorist along with some scumbag lawyer - decided this would make a great anti-human anti-America pro-animal fascists (similar to spandex-bike fascists) tale of woe.

Service dog? Another knee-jerk-liberal-leftist term giving human qualitites to animals.


The above is SEMI-sarcasm. The story IS highly suspect. and humans come way above animals when it comes to survival.

A dog takes up as much space as a HUMAN child and probably as much food and water. Animals should NEVER be allowed in a public evacuation facility. For space - for food - for sanitation. Those who cry the most about this dog are the same ones who would care the least the sight of a dead human baby after an abortion.


30 posted on 09/24/2005 6:54:59 AM PDT by hombre_sincero (www.sigmaitsys.com)
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To: Rose of Sharn

>I dont think it matters one 1 iota whether it was a true service dog or not.<

Actually, it matters a whole lot. John Wyrick stands to be a very wealthy man, and the owner of an apartment building, if Shuma is a certified service dog from an accredited service dog organization.

In addition, the holder of the dog would have absolutely no standing whatsoever in keeping the animal.


31 posted on 09/24/2005 7:06:15 AM PDT by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: Rose of Sharn; Former Military Chick

What a b*tch. I think it's time for a dognapping.


32 posted on 09/24/2005 7:07:53 AM PDT by Beaker
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To: hombre_sincero
. Animals should NEVER be allowed in a public evacuation facility.
That's not the issue here. Neither is abortion or anything else you've ranted about. Go away.
33 posted on 09/24/2005 7:10:51 AM PDT by Beaker
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To: hombre_sincero

hombre_hiperactivo would also seem a fitting name for you ;~D

You lost me at the part where pet lovers have somehow caused more damage than the hurricanes.


34 posted on 09/24/2005 7:11:54 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Ya ever notice there's at least one "Flag Lady" type on every one of these threads?

I'm starting to think it's a syndrome or something.


35 posted on 09/24/2005 7:20:15 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: Former Military Chick

FMC, I can tell you that I have a friend with a service dog for her daughter. No one would even think of telling her that her dog cannot go anywhere, it's illegal. The dog wears a special vest and she has a card to show where the dog came from.

This story is not about a service dog, but about a pet.
I'm not sure if the man is lying or the tv station is dramatizing it for ratings, but honestly, when the real story comes out, I think the station will have egg on it's face.


36 posted on 09/24/2005 7:24:30 AM PDT by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: Salamander

"I just gotta be me!"

37 posted on 09/24/2005 7:26:19 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Former Military Chick
What a despicable woman.

I can not believe someone could be so heartless.

Praying that the original owner will get his dog back.
38 posted on 09/24/2005 7:28:21 AM PDT by Mrs.Nooseman
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To: Former Military Chick
This woman claims the reason for keeping this mans friend is that she and her family have become attached to the animal. This woman hasn't he slightest clue as to how strong the bond is between a dog and it's owner. My understanding is the dog/helper was this mans entire "family". How unfeeling and lacking in even a modicum of common sense can this woman be?

If anyone ever did something like this to me I am sure I would do something utterly stupid and illegal in order to get my best friend back. It seems more then obvious the man was suffering from emotional distress at the time he signed the contract and that alone should make it void. That aside the simple fact that it is the RIGHT thing to do to reunite this poor man with his beloved friend and helper ought to be enough to end this travesty.

I pray that this horrible woman is bombarded and harassed daily, hourly and by the minute for as long as she keeps this man and his faithful friend apart. I own a German Shepherd and have had them all my life. As I imagine something like this happening to separate me and her it brings tears to my eyes and as I further think of it being a willful act to keep us separated, I also feel complete outrage.

I believe God has a special place in his great heart for his creatures and especially for mans best friend. I further believe that this will, in the end work out and Shuma will go back where she belongs. I further believe that this woman will pay a great price for what she is doing.
39 posted on 09/24/2005 7:36:33 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: hombre_sincero
These "we love animals more than humans" people have caused more havoc in rescue and recovery attempts than either of the two hurricanes!

Talk about a TALL TALE load of B.S.!!!

There was no "havoc" created by rescuing and recovering animals. The animal-rescue folks couldn't get in for several days after human recovery started, and they were responding to requests of people who had been rescued!

You "look at me how friggin' tough I am" jerkweeds who don't value the relationship between people and pets should stay off these threads! Just get off them and stay off them!

40 posted on 09/24/2005 7:39:58 AM PDT by sinkspur (Just west of DFW Airport. We can take in four or five and two dogs.)
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