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To: Crackingham

I'd say it's 90% junk science being sold to prop up a system of grants and public money supporting hack scientists without any original thoughts or motivation.

The other 10% indicates we're too puny to influence the globe on the scale they claim. We barely understand weather, and what causes it and influences it, so their claims of knowing for sure are hollow and without merit.

While I agree with anything that would help curb smog and air pollution is good (having lived in LA), the green fantatics (read babbling idiots) have pushed ther agenda so far to the extreme, in the name of furthering their grant money and socialists seeking to undermine Capitolism, that any rational discussion of the subject is impossible, and will have to wait until they retire, die off or find other things to meddle with, and a new generation of rational, clear thinking scientists can examine the issue.

I believe George Carlin (of all people) had a routine about plastic recycling, where he made the comment that thinking our waste will "destroy the earth!" is one of the most arrogant positions to take - the globe, in it's infinite majesty and granduer, regards us as fleas, and to think that we can "destroy" it is preposterous. We may soil our nest, but the planet will survive long after we're gone.

It's hysterical that people are blaming the hurricanes on Bush's failure to sign the Kyoto Treaty (gee, Clinton did'nt either...why is that?), even a VERY liberal woman in my office admitted that's just utterly ridiculous, that a few years of the changes the KT would force could even remotely turn back the centuries if not eons of global climate change. In fact, and it surprised me, she started talking about something she'd read that quoted a scientist who said that there's a lot of evidence that these hurricanes are ALSO a cycle, and that it's happened before.

It always catches me off-guard when a liberal talks sense. But, good for her.

Personally, I think the "global warming" crowd has it's roots in the "duck and cover" generation - they were raised amidst fear-mongering about nuclear war and more importantly - "nuclear winter". Remember that? How a nucear war would force the planet into an endless ice age? (Or whatever fairy tale was passed along). This influenced them, and made them prone to dealing with issues by fear-mongering, as I beleive we learn our problem solving skills unconciously at the feet of adults.

These people, who tend to be the neediest, most demanding, and most childish of the Boomer generation, are simply attempting to exorcise the ghosts of their childhood. "Nuclear Winter" morphed into "global cooling" (Remember when they used to say evil industry was forcing an ice age to occur?) into "global warming" (because they they grew up, became scientists, and the data did'nt support their ice age fantasy).

That's just my theory, from years of watching liberals in their own environment. They all seem to be caught in negative feedback loops with some real or imagined childhood issue, and because they have'nt matured emotionally, cannot escape the downward spiral into madness.

I heard Medea Benjamin on Laura Ingrahm today. "Daddy" issues a mile long - she's still pissed Daddy punished (or left) her, and we all get to pay for it.



16 posted on 09/24/2005 12:00:47 AM PDT by ByDesign
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To: ByDesign

Well if the Global warming greenies are right we want to INCREASE air pollution, by burning lots of dirty coal to get the particulate matter way up and reflect all that nasty solar radiation back into space.


60 posted on 09/24/2005 6:20:18 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: ByDesign

Great post-I think you hit on some very insightful psyche issues. Combine that with the substitution of a earth religion that rejects God's mandate to exercise dominion over the earth (how we progress) and you end up with public policy that hurts and kills humans.


74 posted on 09/24/2005 12:04:35 PM PDT by enviros_kill
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