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Hurricane Rita Live Thread, Part VII
NHC - NOAA ^ | 23 September 2005 | NHC - NOAA

Posted on 09/23/2005 8:01:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: Timeout
The good news is that I think that there will be far more political impetus driving the move to open up Florida.

I think wheels are starting to turn that haven't moved before; the current thinking seems to me to be running the line of still blocking close access to Florida's beaches, but opening up the rest of the Gulf. While that isn't ideal, I would hope that the camel's nose under the tent would result in enough economic benefit to Florida that full development would eventually be possible.

But if gasoline were to spike to the prices Forbes suggested yesterday ($7 a gallon), then I would guess that Floridians would be willing to open everything. In fact, were they to reach such outré levels, I think that there would probably be a strong public push during such a peak to open up all available sources.

2,121 posted on 09/24/2005 3:39:54 AM PDT by snowsislander
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Max Mayfield on now saying storm surge is still a danger. Also says the storm is still dangerous, and people shouldn't try to return to Houston or Galveston yet.


2,122 posted on 09/24/2005 3:43:36 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: laz

There's a word for women like that.

BTW, notice the big storms this year all had female names?

Coincidence?


2,123 posted on 09/24/2005 3:45:06 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: Miss Marple

I like Max Mayfield. He is very patient, but I sense he gets annoyed with some of the questions and hype.


2,124 posted on 09/24/2005 3:45:45 AM PDT by Patriot from Philly
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To: Timeout

G'morning!

If you look at life that way, then Canada would have to start charging you a "hefty surcharge" for all the natural gas, timber and electricity our government agreed to send you. It's not as if you actually NEED any of it. I've lived in the States as well, and you have your own trees and are certainly capable of generating you own electricity. You can drill for natural gas too. You'll find it not far from any of your coal mines.

This is what happens when we put up walls and don't share the earth's resources with once another. I believe proponents of this ideology are said to have a "scarcity mentality."

There are enough natural resources on this planet for all of us, even with triple the present population - if we could only find a way to get along with one another.

Natural disasters like Katrina and Rita are the least of our problems. FWIW - Jesse.


2,125 posted on 09/24/2005 3:47:36 AM PDT by Repent (Nails didn't hold Jesus to the cross - LOVE did.)
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To: Timeout

Tulsa is not polluted, thank you very much.


2,126 posted on 09/24/2005 3:47:57 AM PDT by battlegearboat (Fill 'er up, Check the oil. Whiskbroom floor. Clean the windows, Free map.)
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To: bd476

No word on tornado warnings here, but the shear radar was quiet last time I checked. Still quiet. I'musing the Houiston feed which has a range gate essentially at the LA border. Not sure what's up east of there.

Bead lightnong is a form of ball lightning. When a stroke weakens at the end I believe that internal emag forces make small sections of it ball up. The linear stroke dissolves into a string of beads. It crackles when it does that, consistent with regular ball lightning which often explodes when it disappears. Many small explosions at close range equals "crackle".

Thats what I saw and heard. Best guess between 1000 and 2000 feet away.

It was kewl.


2,127 posted on 09/24/2005 3:50:17 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: conservative in nyc

I'll pull down some DEMs and do an analysis. I have yet to see the SRTM dataset wrong. It's hard for a dirt ball to fool a radar. Look me up when you retrun and I'll hook you up with whatever I have by then.


2,128 posted on 09/24/2005 3:52:10 AM PDT by jeffers
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BTW, notice the big storms this year all had female names?

Coincidence?

Feminists will sue to have them switch to all male names from now on.

2,129 posted on 09/24/2005 3:52:49 AM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: laz
Hurricane Whorealdo

Hurricane Shep

Hurricane Anderson

...all mighty windbags!

2,130 posted on 09/24/2005 3:55:57 AM PDT by battlegearboat (Fill 'er up, Check the oil. Whiskbroom floor. Clean the windows, Free map.)
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To: jeffers

Per NBC live, a carload of looters firing auto weapons at checkpoints in New Orleans.


2,131 posted on 09/24/2005 4:04:11 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: jeffers

Great...my hubby is still in NO with the NG, but he's armed too..


2,132 posted on 09/24/2005 4:06:30 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Tag line down due to repairs)
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To: Miss Marple

Just woke up... From your post am assuming the Galveston and Houston both are OK....Who received the most damage?


2,133 posted on 09/24/2005 4:07:23 AM PDT by hoosiermama ( Blanco, Landrieu, Nagin & Witt.. good name for a flood control business...Motto:"We got dikes!")
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Per NBC live, a carload of looters firing auto weapons at checkpoints in New Orleans.

Breached levees, flooding, looters with AK-47's... Feels like deja-vu all over again. Sigh.

All of NOLA is stuck on stupid.

2,134 posted on 09/24/2005 4:07:46 AM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: jeffers

BTW, reports earlier indicated that the London Canal breach in New Orleans had failed again, water coming in underneath. That's a very tough fix while water is flowing fast. You need a barge to pound in sheet pilings to stop it. If you don't stop it, it undermines anything you try to sit on top.

If it doesn't get closed, then New Orleans will flood to the same levels it did after Katrina.

All that said, they have a better shot at stopping it this time, the flow is slower and they don't have the rest of the Katrina worries this time around Feds already in place, etc., but it's still something to watch.


2,135 posted on 09/24/2005 4:09:53 AM PDT by jeffers
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please post any additional info on NO


2,136 posted on 09/24/2005 4:10:22 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Tag line down due to repairs)
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To: battlegearboat
Hurricane Shep

Hurricane Anderson

...all mighty windbags!


A couple of overnight screencaps.


Shep getting a face full of wind and rain


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===

Anything Geraldo can do, I can do better;
anything Shep can do, I can do, too....

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Anderson Cooper braves Rita.

2,137 posted on 09/24/2005 4:10:34 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: laz

Yup and the women here will tear me apart too.

;-)

It's too late for me, save yourself.


2,138 posted on 09/24/2005 4:10:50 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: mystery-ak

will do


2,139 posted on 09/24/2005 4:11:26 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: mystery-ak

I was wondering if your husband was still in NO; tell me he's not still sleeping in a tent and they've found better accommodations for our guys than that?


2,140 posted on 09/24/2005 4:11:58 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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