Posted on 09/21/2005 7:06:15 AM PDT by areafiftyone
Pence and Allen don't have the name recognition, Tancredo is too controversial, and Santorum is as inspiring as watching grass grow.
Cheney/Rice
Cheney/Allen
Allen/Rice
I like all three of these options.
I could also go for the Allen/Giuliani option. I will not go for McCain anywhere on the ticket and I don't know if I would go for Giuliani as Presidential nominee.
I agree. He needs Karen Hughes back on his staff as speech writer. W mumbles and fuddles in off-the-cuff situations. He does do a fine job in meeting with the troops and has tee-rific comraderie with our military. And THAT i LIKE a lot. Since, to me, the United States Military is the only branch of government that I think we need. Most of the rest can dry up and pi$$ off.
Rudy could honestly ride the "effective" wave that David Brooks wrote about a few weeks ago. There is a real palpable sense that things have gone off the rail in this country, a sense that has obviously began to infiltrate even conservative circles. 3 years is a long way away, a lot can change by then, but don't be surprised if Rudy attracts a lot of even conservative support if he runs on an "effectiveness" campaign.
I think we are on the same wave length. Its not that I am gung ho Giuliani, but I have been keeping a very close eye on the reactions he gets down south and in the mid west when he goes there and so has the MSM. Most of the people who go see him are conservatives and after they meet him and listen to him they want him to run. He does very well with conservatives across this country. That is what the MSM is picking up on. You are right things have changed since the 2004 elections and they are still changing.
These are MSM candidates.
Dear teenyelliott,
Name recognition isn't too important at this point, at least not for someone like Sen. Allen.
If he were to run, he would be taken seriously by the lamestream media instantly, and his name recognition would go up very quickly. It's a matter of his resume. Former US Representative, former successful governor of a state, US Senator, high up in the Republican leadership.
Also, he's relatively charming, mildly charismatic, and can give a pretty good speech.
I don't know if he'd take it all the way - that's one thing the current system is good at - weeding out the "not ready for primetime" folks. Only time - and process - would tell if he's ready for primetime.
I don't really think that Sen. Kerry had high name recognition prior to his 2004 run. Certainly, Mr. Clinton didn't have high name recognition prior to the 1992 cycle, nor did Mr. Dukakis prior to the 1988 cycle. And I remember the guffaws concerning Mr. Carter in 1976. It isn't unusual to nominate someone who isn't initially well-known throughout the countryside.
Because of his somewhat limited experience, I'm not sure that Rep. Pence would attract the same level of "seriousness."
sitetest
Which is why we have campaigns.
Tancredo is too controversial,
I gotta agree with you on Tancredo.
Why? That's like giving the rats an extra vote.
Not voting at all should never be an option.
"By the time they get through replacing all the internal parts on Cheney; he'll be the next 8 million dollar man. LOLL
LOL You got that right! I bet he runs, and when he does "it" will hit the fan BIG time.
-As for Rice, I'm not sure she is ready for either the 1&2 position yet.
-Allen has said some really stupid stuff in the past 2 years, but I think he will get the nod if he runs. He isn't ready for the #1 spot yet. Plus I'm not sure I forgive Allen yet for not bring out the truth about Kerry and his real discharge. I'll get over it since Bush kicked Kerry's butt, but I was really mad at the time.
-I used to like McCain until Bush became "the man" in 2000 but after that I think McCain lost his mind like Gore eventually did as well. LOL
What are the chances that McCain would settle for vice prez?
Yes, he's a very good gladhander, backslapper, schmoozer in person, or so he seems to be. But he needs more than just a good speechwriter. He ought to be able to explain ideas effectively on his own. He cannot. He sounds like a child next to Australia's John Howard or Britain's Tony Blair.
I guess it's letter writing time.
I guess it's letter writing time.
"I will not go for McCain anywhere on the ticket and I don't know if I would go for Giuliani as Presidential nominee."
I agree with this without a doubt.
The only way Giuliani loses is if conservatives stay home because he is pro-choice. Haven't we learned that three supposedly pro-life Republican presidents over 20 years did nothing to stop abortion? Were there more abortions while pro-choice Bill Clinton was president? Yet we are perfectly willing to walk away from a giant like Rudy Giuliani because of this issue. Once George Bush gets a conservative majority on the Supreme Court, abortion should not even be an issue in a presidential campaign. It will, and should, be fought in the states.
Giuliani cheated on his wife? Ronald Reagan did too, and Nancy was pregnant before they were married. Y'all might be very unpleasantly surprised at the personal peccadillos of many of your conservative heroes.
The next president really needs to accomplish only two things: get federal spending under control, and win the war on terror. I would feel more confident that Giuliani could do those two things than any other candidate out there, and he will kill Hillary on both of those issues.
I know, it's true. It just feels good sometimes to vent, even if at the end of the day, I'll do the "right" thing and vote for another lifelong bureaucrat. It's just frustrating as hell. To think the only alternative to GWB was John Kerry. In America? I can't believe this is the best we can do, and yet it is.
George Allen once had a Confederate flag hanging in his cabin. The MSM will crucify him with this before the first primary.
Condoleezza Rice
19%
Wow - that seems to be moving up!
McCain can take his bus back to the desert for all I care... AND take his campaign finance reform bill with him.
Rudy is no republican.
Y'all just keep on running Rudy up the flag pole, and I'll just keep on refusing to salute.
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