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Giuliani Leads 2008 Republican White House Hopefuls (Rasmussen Poll)
Angus Reid ^ | 9/21/05

Posted on 09/21/2005 7:06:15 AM PDT by areafiftyone

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To: DTogo
"McCain '08 is an MSM pipe dream."

I must respectfully disagree. McCain is a MSM red herring. Their pipe dream is Hillary. If McCain or Guliani are the GOP candidate, their pipe dream will become a reality. Too many Republicans that lean toward Libertarian or Conservative will not vote for either. They will vote third party and let the chips fall where they may. I remember 1996 when Carroll Campbell and the establishment Republicans told us that Dole was "our" candidate and if we didn't like it it was too bad. Well, we got Clinton again!
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101 posted on 09/21/2005 8:09:06 AM PDT by Bar-Face (The Embassy helicopter is warming up.)
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To: dts32041

We can all vote for the conservative of our choice in the primaries, but anyone here who would stay home on election day if Giuliani were to prevail has his head firmly planted where the sun don't shine.


102 posted on 09/21/2005 8:10:21 AM PDT by Oldhunk
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To: Cobra64
And that is the only criteria to not vote for him?

Of course not. But from everything I know of the man, he is anything BUT a conservative.

And I cannot abide a man who cheats on his wife. That speaks volumes about a man's character.

103 posted on 09/21/2005 8:11:11 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

Dear Dems_R_Losers,

Maybe.

The fact that the lamestream media WON'T hang Mr. Giuliani out to dry further reinforces my refusal to vote for him.

He's more one of them than one of us.


sitetest


104 posted on 09/21/2005 8:12:09 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Cobra64

"I agree. He needs Karen Hughes back on his staff as speech writer. W mumbles and fuddles in off-the-cuff situations. He does do a fine job in meeting with the troops and has tee-rific comraderie with our military. And THAT i LIKE a lot. Since, to me, the United States Military is the only branch of government that I think we need. Most of the rest can dry up and pi$$ off."

Yes, Bush does fumble, but so do I. He is creative in word forms as I am with word spelling, but I get him and so does most Americans.
I never want a man/woman who speaks above the people or dumbs it down either. I think it is important that the people don't have to have a dictionary handy every time they hear their President speak.

I love Cheney's style best.


105 posted on 09/21/2005 8:12:27 AM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: uncitizen
What are the chances that McCain would settle for vice prez?

I could see him running as Hillary's right hand man if Vice Prez is what he wants.

106 posted on 09/21/2005 8:12:44 AM PDT by commonguymd (My impatience is far more advanced than any known technology.)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

"George Allen once had a Confederate flag hanging in his cabin. The MSM will crucify him with this before the first primary."

The liberals would make a few dents, but Allen is a history collector and Va. is very rich in history.


107 posted on 09/21/2005 8:14:33 AM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Ronald Reagan is the TRUE "Father Of Our Country".)
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To: areafiftyone

Remarkable.

There are so many serious earth shattering issues that will confront the next President that people are hung up on things that will pale in comparison

Bush is appointing a Chief Justice and at least one more to the Court, that will decide Abortion once and for all.

You think Gulliani will have nothing better to do then concern himself with Gays and Guns. Those domestic issues are for Congress anyway.

We desperately need a Gulinni for the times ahead. No one else even comes close.


108 posted on 09/21/2005 8:14:53 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: Huck

I 100% agree.


109 posted on 09/21/2005 8:15:19 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: areafiftyone
LOL The Giuliani haters are out in full force. But I knew when I posted this thread they will be here.

I don't hate Giulliani, he appears to be a very likable guy.

However he publicly supports the abomination of abortion. He has my prayers, but not my vote.

110 posted on 09/21/2005 8:18:36 AM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: murphE

He is a practicing Catholic who entertained the Priesthood.

Where he supports Abortion is because he was a public officeholder and it is the Law of the Land.

A law and order type like him would prosecute Abortion to the max if the law made it illegal.


111 posted on 09/21/2005 8:23:24 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: Sabramerican

Dear Sabramerican,

"Bush is appointing a Chief Justice and at least one more to the Court, that will decide Abortion once and for all."

Unfortunately, even should Chief Justice Roberts prove pro-life, and the next justice, too, the Supreme Court will remain 5-4 in favor of retaining Roe v. Wade. For those of us who care deeply about over 1 million unborn babies slaughtered each year, we know that the battle is far from won.

Mr. Giuliani not only believes that we are obligated to obey the laws currently in force regarding abortion, but he is committed to protecting the status quo. He firmly believes that women have a right to procure the death of their unborn children. To elect Mr. Giuliani is to sentence millions more to death.

"You think Gulliani will have nothing better to do then concern himself with Gays and Guns."

Unfortunately, the liberals are making every effort to nationalize special rights for homosexuals, and without presidential leadership opposing this, we will wind up being forced to acknowledge the marriages of "Adam and Steve" in every state. This further breakdown in our social fabric has more long-term negative implications for the United States than any external threat.

As well, there is a pretty potent anti-gun rights lobby in the US, especially in Washington, and an anti-gun president will help bring about lots more anti-gun rights legislation, at a national level. This goes to the defense of the nation, as disarming the citizenry is to eventually invite tyranny.


sitetest


112 posted on 09/21/2005 8:27:09 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: areafiftyone

THis is the most pointless poll of all time since none of those three have a shot of winning the Republican nomination.


113 posted on 09/21/2005 8:31:15 AM PDT by Texas Federalist ("There is simply no fat left to cut in the federal budget." Tom DeLay - R? Texas)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
"The next president really needs to accomplish only two things: get federal spending under control, and win the war on terror. I would feel more confident that Giuliani could do those two things than any other candidate out there, and he will kill Hillary on both of those issues."

The War on Terror can't be won if we don't control our borders, and any republican candidate who doesn't come out against illegal immigration may gain a few Latino votes but they will definitely lose a lot of conservative voters.

114 posted on 09/21/2005 8:31:29 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: Bar-Face
the establishment Republicans told us that Dole was "our" candidate

I am still amazed that Dole was given the nomination.

And those here that think a great orator is absolutely necessary, just remember Clinton. He could give speeches and answer questions with ease. Like many of you, I wish that W was a bit more fluent with the english language, but if my choices are between a great speaker and a great leader, the great leader gets my nod every time.
115 posted on 09/21/2005 8:32:09 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (11, 175, 77, 93 - In Memory Always)
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To: areafiftyone

Who did they poll? NYC?

He was a good leader during 9/11, but he won't get the Christian Right vote.

He's pro-abortion, a womanizer, and a list of other things that the Christian Right opposes. You just might see a third party rise up if Rudy gets the nomination.

We can't handle four more years of infidelity after eight years of Clinton.


116 posted on 09/21/2005 8:33:03 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Christian, Comedian, Husband,Opa, Dog Owner, former Cat Co-dweller, and all around good guy.)
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To: areafiftyone

Neither of the top two gets my vote but isn't it interessting that even our RINO'S beat Hitlery? Even the guys that the base of the party do not want, beat the beast!

Ooh thats gotta sting!


117 posted on 09/21/2005 8:33:31 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Say no to crack! Free overalls for all plumbers.)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
The next president really needs to accomplish only two things: get federal spending under control, and win the war on terror.

You must throw Border Control in there too and I do like what Rudy did to clean up the streets of NYC.
118 posted on 09/21/2005 8:36:43 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (11, 175, 77, 93 - In Memory Always)
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To: teenyelliott

So I assume you didn't like Reagan either since he cheated on his wife. You are saying he wasn't a man of character?


119 posted on 09/21/2005 8:38:23 AM PDT by SONbrad
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To: areafiftyone

If our nominee is Rudy or the Maniac, you can kiss the repub majorities good bye. One stabs his party in the back at every possible turn to help out the enemy (that's liberals to you in Rio Linda) the other thinks homoperve marriage and infanticide are good things.

No conservatives there. Third party here I come, and I bet a third of the folks that consider themselves conservatives, before Republicans. Never, NEVER tie yourself to one political party. If you must register, register independant. That way WHEN not IF the Repubs stab you in the back, you can vote third party.

Should Rudy or Mcbain win the nomination, we will no longer have Republicans and Democrats, we will have Democrats and Socialists. Given that choice, third party here I come.


120 posted on 09/21/2005 8:43:27 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Say no to crack! Free overalls for all plumbers.)
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