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Panel Suggests Ways to Improve Elections
ap on Yahoo ^ | 9/19/05 | Will Lester - ap

Posted on 09/19/2005 4:30:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - A private commission trying to restore public confidence in national elections recommended on Monday requiring a free photo ID for voters, drawing opposition from Democrats and some voting rights activists.

Critics suggested that having to acquire the ID cards in order to vote could be an obstacle for minorities, the poor and older Americans and might intimidate some people.

"We believe such a requirement would constitute nothing less than a 21st century poll tax," said a letter from Reps. John Conyers, D-Mich., and John Lewis, D-Ga. Poll taxes were once used in some states to prevent black citizens from voting.

Former President Carter, a co-chair of the commission, said he was hesitant about the free photo ID proposal at first, but laws passed in some states like Georgia convinced him that a national approach was a better idea. Republican lawmakers in Georgia pushed through legislation that requires a new voter identification card that costs $20 for five years.

"Some states have passed abominable laws that are a disgrace to democracy," Carter said.

In Atlanta, voter and civil rights organizations challenged the Georgia law in federal court, contending in a suit filed Monday that it would disenfranchise minorities and the poor. Nineteen states require voters to show identification; five request photo ID, the National Conference of State Legislatures said.

The commission proposed that voters who don't have the card could cast a provisional ballot and produce the photo ID later. States also would have to promote the photo ID card aggressively.

Two principal Democratic sponsors of legislation aimed at dealing with shortcoming of the 2000 election — Sen. Christopher Dodd (news, bio, voting record) of Connecticut and Rep. Steny Hoyer (news, bio, voting record) of Maryland, the House minority whip — also said they are concerned that the photo ID requirement could disenfranchise voters. In a statement, they said the proposal "strikes us as unnecessary and indeed unwise."

The commission recommended improved voter registration lists, requiring a verifiable paper trail for electronic voting machines and rotating regional primaries, while warning that "Americans are losing confidence in elections."

"Some foreign countries have gone far beyond us in making sure that voting procedures and registration of voters is at a high level of true democracy," said Carter, who has monitored elections around the world.

Carter's co-chair on the private commission, former Secretary of State James Baker, acknowledged that "there is room for improvement" in a system he believes remains strong.

Among the recommendations of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, organized by American University:

_Top elections officials in states should be nonpartisan and selected by a large majority of the legislature as a way to cut down on partisanship.

_States should develop registration systems that allow easy checks of voters from one state to another and the purging of outdated voter records.

Carter and Baker presented the plan to President Bush on Monday and talked about their plan at the Capitol. Later, Bush thanked them for "the excellent work" and said he looked forward to working with Congress on the recommendations after he reviews them.

"It is critical to maintain America's trust in our election system," Bush said in a statement.

Carter and Baker said they thought the recommendations would deal with problems in the system that remained in spite of a federal law passed after the 2000 elections between Bush and Democrat Al Gore.

A rotating regional primary, with Iowa and New Hampshire still leading off the voting, would allow more people to have a say in the choosing of a nominee because fewer than one in 10 voters now cast a ballot before the nominee is decided, Carter said.

Massachusetts Secretary of State William Galvin led efforts to get the rotating regional primary approved by the nation's secretaries of state a few years ago. He has his doubts whether it will sell.

"The problem with the Carter-Baker Commission is exactly the problem with the National Association of Secretaries of State," Galvin said. "We're both bipartisan and there's nothing bipartisan about scheming for presidential primaries."

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On the Net:

Commission on Federal Election Reform: http://www.american.edu/ia/cfer/


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Critics suggested that having to acquire the ID cards in order to vote could be an obstacle for minorities, the poor and older Americans and might intimidate some people.

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plus, yaknow how hard it is to make dead voters IDs look authentic?

1 posted on 09/19/2005 4:30:21 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
A private commission trying to restore public confidence in national elections recommended on Monday requiring a free photo ID for voters, drawing opposition from Democrats and some voting rights activists. Critics suggested that having to acquire the ID cards in order to vote could be an obstacle for minorities, the poor and older Americans and might intimidate some people.

Would this go down as the first freebie that the poor would refuse?

-PJ

2 posted on 09/19/2005 4:32:07 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Any who would oppose voter ID are up to no good.


3 posted on 09/19/2005 4:34:10 PM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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"We believe such a requirement would constitute nothing less than a 21st century poll tax," said a letter from Reps. John Conyers, D-Mich., and John Lewis, D-Ga. Poll taxes were once used in some states to prevent black citizens from voting.

Yeah, yeah, we know, it would be just like being on that slave ship again. Morons.
4 posted on 09/19/2005 4:35:50 PM PDT by Riemann (Multiculturalism -- hate teach.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Why do they need to issue a different voter's photo ID?  Isn't state or government issued ID is good enough like if you board a plane you need to show a government issued photo ID?
5 posted on 09/19/2005 4:35:56 PM PDT by hamboy
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To: NormsRevenge

dems don't like the idea of identifying yourself before you vote? afraid the illegal alien's fake ID will be too easy to spot?


6 posted on 09/19/2005 4:37:01 PM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: NormsRevenge

They didn't go far enough. In my opinion, if you are under retirement age and you don't pay taxes, you shouldn't be eligible to vote.


7 posted on 09/19/2005 4:38:04 PM PDT by Ben Mugged
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To: NormsRevenge

dems don't like the idea of identifying yourself before you vote? afraid the illegal alien's fake ID will be too easy to spot?


8 posted on 09/19/2005 4:38:06 PM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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To: NormsRevenge

Definitely need picture I.D.s.
Only problem is some people and their pets look so much alike that the temptation might overcome some voters.
And btw jimmah, you should know the ins and outs of voter fraud.


9 posted on 09/19/2005 4:39:16 PM PDT by Straight8 (Humpty Dumpty was pushed!(That's my conspiracy theory, and I'm Stickin' to it))
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To: NormsRevenge

sorry about the double post........oops


10 posted on 09/19/2005 4:39:48 PM PDT by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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....recommended on Monday requiring a free photo ID for voters, drawing opposition from Democrats and some voting rights activists.

LMAO!!! Surprise, surprise.

11 posted on 09/19/2005 4:40:29 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: NormsRevenge
A private commission trying to restore public confidence in national elections recommended on Monday requiring a free photo ID for voters, drawing opposition from Democrats and some voting rights activists.

"We believe such a requirement would constitute nothing less than a 21st century poll tax," said a letter from Reps. John Conyers, D-Mich., and John Lewis, D-Ga. Poll taxes were once used in some states to prevent black citizens from voting.

Do blacks consider photo ID's for drivers license a poll tax as well? Only reason why they don't want a phot ID is because they literally have to dig up their voting constituants, and open their coffins to get a picture!

12 posted on 09/19/2005 4:41:22 PM PDT by Bommer
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Maybe because you do not need to be a citizen, as in someone elegible to vote, to get a drivers license?

And using red in you post only draws attention to your less than thoughtful idea.

13 posted on 09/19/2005 4:42:21 PM PDT by 11Bush
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To: NormsRevenge

Wow, Jimmy Carter must have been asleep at the wheel and didn't get the memo. MUST OPPOSE ID'S .... MUST OPPOSE ID's.


14 posted on 09/19/2005 4:43:25 PM PDT by Chicos_Bail_Bonds
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To: NormsRevenge

Carter is co-chair huh? With his history in free and fair elections in Haiti and Venezuela, I don't hold much stock in anything good coming of this.


15 posted on 09/19/2005 4:43:46 PM PDT by appleharvey
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To: Bommer

We don't have National elections. Congress needs to keep it's nose out of State business.


16 posted on 09/19/2005 4:45:05 PM PDT by csmusaret (Urban Sprawl is an oxymoron)
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To: tkathy
"Any who would oppose voter ID are up to no good."

Absolutely, the Libs and race hustlers can't allow this to happen. It seems to me, an average person, that this is the most important thing that could be done to insure fair elections. It has been suspected that quite a few dim voters are bused from polling place to polling place on election day. A good ID system would make this practice more difficult.

17 posted on 09/19/2005 4:45:18 PM PDT by lstanle
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To: shooter223


A Bump Is
A Bump Is
A Bump!
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18 posted on 09/19/2005 4:46:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: csmusaret
We don't have National elections.

That'll be news to Presidents that are elected!

19 posted on 09/19/2005 6:07:32 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: Bommer
We don't have National elections.

That'll be news to Presidents that are elected!

Actually csmusaret is correct we vote for electors who are members of the Electoral College who are empowered to elect the president.

20 posted on 09/19/2005 6:14:47 PM PDT by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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