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To: Kevin OMalley
Very wrong. And I'm surprised to see you posting that after our discussion.

Your link only has two references between us, and nothing relevant to archeology and religion. I do remember talking with someone about Hirohito's claimed deity. I guess that was you in some other thread.

>>>>When you get science to invent a machine to tell you that God is present, and which "god" he is, then let me know.

***As soon as you are intellectually honest enough to investigate the historical trilemma, you'll have what you need. It's all there.

Nice change of subject. I bring up a hypothetical machine and you reply about history.

I have seen no archaeological evidence of any deity. I've not studied the subject of non Biblical evidence for the existence of Jesus, but I have seen references that some questionable mentions of Jesus existed. But that's it.

And it still does not speak to any real "scientific" evidence that any deity exists.

The original point on this issue was a challenge if religious folks push the ID subject, then religion will begin to be challenged by science (some professors bring up the subject today, what I'm talking about is a sustained, affirmative falsification of all things religious). I think this will happen, and religion will not fare well.

55 posted on 09/19/2005 6:04:21 PM PDT by narby
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Nice change of subject. I bring up a hypothetical machine and you reply about history.
***Ok, the machine IS history.


I have seen no archaeological evidence of any deity.
***You have seen archaeological and historical evidence of a CLAIM to deity. What you do with that claim is a matter of your own inner self and intellectual honesty, how you see the world, maybe even religion.


I've not studied the subject of non Biblical evidence for the existence of Jesus, but I have seen references that some questionable mentions of Jesus existed. But that's it.
***You had enough to accept the historicity of Caesar, so you had enough to accept the historicity of that claim.


And it still does not speak to any real "scientific" evidence that any deity exists.
***It speaks to the scientific evidence that someone who has some pretty good credentials claimed to be God. That Claim is a part of history. The processing of that information on an intuitive, inductive, spiritual level is more of a religious or philosophical pursuit rather than a deductive one. This is something that I have seen in engineering as well as scientific circles, where it is demanded that a deductive argument be presented when it is obvious to all involved that it is an inductive pursuit. You don't bring a 2 headed pitchfork to fight a 3 headed dog.


The original point on this issue was a challenge if religious folks push the ID subject, then religion will begin to be challenged by science (some professors bring up the subject today, what I'm talking about is a sustained, affirmative falsification of all things religious).
***Okie dokie.


I think this will happen, and religion will not fare well.
***I think it is already happening, and I also think that the haps stuff IS a religion, so what we're looking at here is kinda like a religious turf war.


70 posted on 09/19/2005 6:49:10 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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