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1 posted on 09/18/2005 4:31:23 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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The outcome made it appear likely that Germany's next government could be weakened...

I do not see how it can be any more weak than it is now.

2 posted on 09/18/2005 4:32:45 PM PDT by msnimje (Cogito Ergo Sum Republican)
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3 posted on 09/18/2005 4:36:16 PM PDT by frankjr
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short of a clear mandate to govern

Funny how this always gets thrown at "conservatives" that win elections. YOUR GUY LOST AP. No matter how you try to spin it, YOU LOST. These Dinosaurs really are too stupid to evolve.

4 posted on 09/18/2005 4:37:21 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (If Democrats have all the answers, why after 60 years of Dem rule is Louisiana such a mess?)
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From:

http://medienkritik.typepad.com/blog/

+++UPDATE+++: Because of the relatively close CDU-CSU results relative to the SPD, both Schroeder and Merkel are laying claim to the Chancellery. It still looks like the CDU-CSU has the better position, but anything is possible, with Schroeder pointing to the fact that he is far more popular than Merkel in a one-on-one comparison. It may be that the distribution of seats is a virtual tie between the CDU-CSU and SPD because of the direct election of candidates. In the case that the SPD ties or pulls slightly ahead in terms of overall seats, Schroeder may still be able to remain Chancellor.

(PRIOR TO UPDATE)-

Strongly looks like a "Grand Coalition" between CDU-CSU and SPD with Merkel at its head. (Update: Merkel as Chancellor is far from certain, the SPD may receive as many seats as the CDU-CSU because of direct election results, and Schroeder still has a clear chance.) The CDU-CSU appears to be far below the pre-election poll numbers, which had the party around 41%. One of the biggest losers in this election will be the pollsters as they clearly and dramatically failed to accurately predict the correct outcome.

Analysis: There remains a high degree of uncertainty at this point. Merkel may still be Chancellor, Schroeder may still be out, but the CDU-CSU's poorer than expected performance will almost certainly guarantee a gridlock prone "Grand Coalition" with a heavier SPD proportion than expected.

It looks like Angela Merkel completely failed to energize her base. The SPD did a much better job of campaigning with a sympathetic media at its side and turned in the expected performance despite Germany's massive domestic problems. Schroeder's strong debate performance further boosted the SPD and took the air out of Merkel. Many conservative voters appear to have voted FDP rather than CDU-CSU. This result is going to badly weaken Merkel in the Chancellery (if she makes it).

There also remains an outside chance of a three-way coalition between either SPD/Greens/LeftPDS or SPD/Greens/FDP or even CDU-CSU/FDP/Greens. Many prominent politicians categorically ruled-out these constellations before the election, but you just never know in politics...power can be tempting.

As we see it, things don't look particularly good for Germany or German-American relations. The key word at this point is: Gridlock. Expect to see a lot of it in Germany's future.

(source)

Notes for readers not familiar with German politics: SPD = Schroeder's Social-Democrats; CDU-CSU = Merkel's Christian Democratic Union and Bavarian Christian Social Democratic Union; Grüne = Greens; FDP = Free-Democrats (business and economically-minded party), Linke.PDS = Left-Wing ex-Communist party; Sonstige = Others.

Check out Davids pre-election analysis of the situation if you are unfamiliar with German politics and want to learn more.


7 posted on 09/18/2005 4:38:45 PM PDT by frankjr
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This is another Dewey Wins headline.


(9:23 p.m.) The Forsa Institute sees the SPD as the strongest faction in the German parliament. In a projection for the TV network N-TV it claims 223 seats for the SPD and only 220 for CDU/CSU


9 posted on 09/18/2005 4:41:47 PM PDT by Vis Numar
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Schroeder... proclaimed that he should head the next government

What chutzpah!!
He loses the election, but still thinks he deserves to rule. Must be taking 'tippers' from Gore. Can't wait for the recounts.


10 posted on 09/18/2005 4:42:12 PM PDT by melt ( Someday they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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And meanwhile, CNN reports that the US is cool to the fact that Schroeder won. Sheesh. The press just can't do anything right.


14 posted on 09/18/2005 4:51:24 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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If the German people are going to wake up in time to save themselves, they're certainly taking their time about it.


19 posted on 09/18/2005 4:55:56 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Love is the ultimate aphrodisiac.)
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If the government there is weaker in its oppostion to our fight on tyerror, that is a good thing.

Merkel will end up being in charge of forming the coalition and I believe they are much closer at 45% to being able to get a majority together in a coopalition than anything Shroeder can put together.

20 posted on 09/18/2005 4:57:12 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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I'll bet the DUmmies that voted for Gerhard would re-elect Hitler if given the chance.


23 posted on 09/18/2005 5:19:47 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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A loss by Shroeder is a win for the US. He opposed us and loss. It will make other communists think twice in the future.


32 posted on 09/18/2005 7:58:28 PM PDT by Joe_October (Saddam supported Terrorists. Al Qaeda are Terrorists. I can't find the link.)
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