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To: em2vn

I have a few but I won't list them. I don't have the time for a protracted discussion as I now work all day and won't be able to answer people. I don't like to be flamed and I most surely will be.


254 posted on 09/18/2005 4:54:06 AM PDT by cyborg (Thank you dear Lord for my new job and the breath in my lungs.)
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To: cyborg; em2vn
I have a few but I won't list them. I don't have the time for a protracted discussion .....

LOL, good move.....it was a fair question, but a little like being asked "well, what reservations do you have about the Immaculate Conception?" by the nice young men from the Holy Office of the Inquisition.

Too, your Q & A reminds me of the scene in Hardcore in which George C. Scott's character, engaging the help of a young Southern California prostitute in finding Scott's daughter, who has been grabbed from a church-school field trip and forced into pornographic filmmaking (and possibly into an eventual "snuff flick") by a sinister character with the street name of "Rattan" (Rat Man, get it?), finds himself having a very unlikely conversation with the prostitute about the meaning of TULIP, the abbreviation that summarizes the fundamental beliefs of the Dutch Reformed Church, the church he belongs to back home in Michigan. He goes through all the principia while the prostitute sits there open-mouthed in astonishment that anyone could esteem such ingenuous beliefs as high principle and talk about them openly.

That was one of the more interesting "culture shock" scenes in Hollywood history -- and a film, by the way, that Scott wound up making pretty much on his own (with some key help from Peter Boyle), rather like Robert Duvall did with The Apostle years later -- only Duvall had help from Farrah Fawcett and Billy Bob Thornton and a church congregation in Louisiana. Scott had Boyle and his own wallet, and nobody in Hollywood would touch that film for years; and so Scott made it himself, much as Duvall did The Apostle and Mel Gibson did The Passion of the Christ.

266 posted on 09/18/2005 6:52:38 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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