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Girls and Boys, Meet Nature. Bring Your Gun.
NY Times ^ | September 18, 2005 | PAM BELLUCK

Posted on 09/17/2005 9:08:12 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: cyborg
Martial arts is worthless for a small child any good sized adult can easily over power a child. Just think of the times you could grab a child wrap he or she up in your arms they are fairly helpless then think about using a bit of force like a punch to the head ect.

Martial arts is a good sport and can build the body and mind and if a kid wants to do it find ,better then being a couch rat.

I am not talking about a 12 and older child by that time they are getting some size and muscle to be able to do something. But smaller children just do not have the size or power to make it work. Learning to throw a good kick and punch well help them later when they get big enough to have some power behind it.

Fighting back is a good idea screaming biting, kicking ect anything to make someone else take notice that the child isn't going along freely. But to think a child is going to out fight some one that is 2,3,4 times their size who is determined to do them harm, it just isn't going to work.

241 posted on 09/18/2005 4:13:16 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: mmercier
My grandmother told me once that until she was a teenager she never ate any meat that she did not see slaughtered and dressed.

When I was a youngun (3 or 4 yo) Sunday dinner was fried chicken. Dad would go out back and select a few chickens. He would hold the neck across a stump and chop off the head. There would be two or three headless chickens running around – and I thought it was really an amazing sight. He would pluck them and Mom would singe, clean and fry them up.
After we got rid of the chickens – the town decided to be “civilized” and ban farm animals – it was years before I could get used to processed store bought chicken.
242 posted on 09/18/2005 4:14:43 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Jasper
I find plotts to be to aggressive they get chewed up to much and your vet bills are high with them I much prefer a hound that just barks at the bear instead of trying to kill it.
243 posted on 09/18/2005 4:18:19 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: billnaz

I got my first bb gun for Christmas when I was six...and I didn't shoot my eye out! I always could outshoot my boy cousins, and I am still very good with a pistol.
Texas girls and boys still hunt, so this type of story wouldn't even make the news, much less front page. I hope we never have occasion to have to rely on getting our own food in this country, because most of our citizens would starve to death if there wasn't a supermarket available.


244 posted on 09/18/2005 4:22:04 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
I'll bet you she helps gut and skin the bear. By daughter gladly jumped right in with her first deer at 12 yoa. Now she can gut them with the best.

She well know more about hunting and life after this hunt then a lot of adults.

245 posted on 09/18/2005 4:23:13 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: LuLuLuLu
(I have some OLD cookbooks that go into detail about that.)

My favorite cookbook is Meta Given’s Modern Encyclopedia of Cooking (1952). Everything from nutrition, meal planning, cleaning and dressing to cooking. Everything is made from scratch.
246 posted on 09/18/2005 4:23:31 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: neverdem

My problem is, most people don't eat bear. I've never liked trophy hunting; I've always believed if you killed it you should eat it. Otherwise, it seems like a waste.


247 posted on 09/18/2005 4:23:54 AM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: brooklin

A 20ga with a slug is just find. It'll kill any bear they put up a tree, ranges are short and most of the time they have lots of time to get ready aim and fire.


248 posted on 09/18/2005 4:25:57 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Junior
I know and hunt with a lot of bear hunters. Bear is some of my favorite meat.
249 posted on 09/18/2005 4:30:27 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: cyborg
Not trying to be a smarty-pants here, but remember that hunting is wired into all of us genetically. We started as hunter-gatherers before we learned to cultivate. The Garden of Eden story is essentially a story of the transition from hunter-gatherers to field laborers.

Avid shoppers probably fail to realize that the reason they love their hobby so much is because of that basic hunting instinct. Just my humble opinion.

250 posted on 09/18/2005 4:34:04 AM PDT by Hardastarboard
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To: neverdem
Girls and Boys, Meet Nature. Bring Your Gun.

Excellent, all our children and grandchildren learned to hunt and enjoy the outdoors. I am sure the great grandchilden will also learn but they are just a little to young right now.

251 posted on 09/18/2005 4:38:08 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
She probably still believes in Santa Clause.

What you talkin' 'bout?

He comes to my house every December 25th!

252 posted on 09/18/2005 4:40:38 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: cyborg

What personal principles does hunting violate? I ask that seriously.


253 posted on 09/18/2005 4:47:10 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: em2vn

I have a few but I won't list them. I don't have the time for a protracted discussion as I now work all day and won't be able to answer people. I don't like to be flamed and I most surely will be.


254 posted on 09/18/2005 4:54:06 AM PDT by cyborg (Thank you dear Lord for my new job and the breath in my lungs.)
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To: riverrunner

I had it once. IIRC, it tasted like pork. Most of the bear hunters I know, however, just do it for the trophy. Deer hunters, on the other hand, most often do it for the meat.


255 posted on 09/18/2005 5:08:30 AM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: Racehorse
"But IMHO, she's too d$!n young and immature to be on a hunt and she's too d$!n young and immature to be killing things. I've been around guns and hunters all my life. Don't believe I've come across this kind of father before, nor do I care too."

Where I'm from (rural South Louisiana) it is absolutely typical. In fact, the local weekly paper regularly publishes pictures of "young'uns" who have bagged their first deer during hunting season. Both boys and girls, ages around 9-12.

Where are you from, so I can avoid it if people think like that?

256 posted on 09/18/2005 5:30:41 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: rock58seg; andie74

Hey, I just remembered that my sister got a recipe for homemade skunk shampoo after her dog got nailed once. She used it and the vet she went to a couple days later couldn't believe it. Here it is:

1 quart hydrogen peroxide
1/4 cup baking soda
1T Dawn dishwashing detergent
Stir SLOWLY. DO NOT CAP.

You have to make it as needed as I doubt it keeps well but she said it works wonders. And she didn't have a pink dog.


257 posted on 09/18/2005 5:30:53 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: djf
"If you really believe that a couple folks with 12 guages and 30.06's are gonna stop a rampaging government that has tear gasses and automatic weapons (if it was ever intent on taking you out) then you are pretty unrealistically optimistic."

There's only one problem with your logic. WE ALREADY DID IT. The "force disparity" between the colonists and "Mother England" was just as great.

But that isn't the REAL deterrent. The REAL deterrent is that our scheming politicians know, deep down in their reptile brains, that if they piss off their constituents badly enough, that they can end up dead. When our pols lose that fear, THEN we will have tyranny.

258 posted on 09/18/2005 5:38:58 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: riverrunner

Pinching works well, too. Ever have your toddler run up to you and grab your leg. Those grabs on the inside of my thigh ALWAYS put me through the ceiling.


259 posted on 09/18/2005 5:39:33 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

That is so true. Who's to say that some day we may not have to throw off the yoke of THIS government and start all over again?


260 posted on 09/18/2005 5:43:15 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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