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Presidential Leadership Rankings: Bush is Ranked "Average" Just Below LBJ (Liberal Historians Alert)
Wall Street Journal ^ | Setp 12,2005 | James Taranto

Posted on 09/13/2005 6:11:52 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

How's He Doing? George W. Bush is "average," but far from ordinary. BY JAMES TARANTO Monday, September 12, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT Ask someone to describe the presidency of George W. Bush, and "average" is not a word you're likely to hear. Mr. Bush's detractors treat him with a level of vituperation unseen since the days of Franklin D. Roosevelt; some even blame him for bad weather. His admirers don't go so far as to credit him when the sun shines, but their affection for him is palpable. So it may come as a surprise that in a new survey of scholars ranking the presidents, Mr. Bush finishes almost exactly in the middle of the pack. He ranks No. 19 out of 40, and he rates 3.01 on a 5-point scale, just a hair's breadth above the middlemost possible figure. But this is no gentleman's C. Mr. Bush's rating is average because it is an average, of rankings given by 85 professors of history, politics, law and economics. Most such scholarly polls have a strong liberal bias, reflecting academia's far-left tilt. But this survey--conducted by James Lindgren of Northwestern University Law School for the Federalist Society and The Wall Street Journal--aimed at ideological balance. The scholars were chosen with an eye toward balancing liberals and conservatives, and Mr. Lindgren asked each participant about his political orientation, then adjusted the average to give Democratic- and Republican-leaning scholars equal weight. (To see the rankings, click here.) Mr. Bush's rating thus reflects the same sharp partisan divide that gave him a shade under 51% of the popular vote last year.

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KEYWORDS: average; bush; lbj; leadership; ranking
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To: GianniV

Hopefully Coolidge will get his due someday.


41 posted on 09/13/2005 6:51:27 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: twigs

Quite possibly.


42 posted on 09/13/2005 6:52:28 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: SirLinksalot

Both Buchanan and Harding should be ranked above Carter; arguably the worst President ever. Its hard to completely muck up to almost catastrophic levels both domestic and foreign policy simultaneously, but he accomplished it (during a time of "peace", no less (!)).


43 posted on 09/13/2005 6:53:32 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: patriciaruth

I sent the following to a democrat party hack - but it applies here also:

It is a fairly accurate poll, though I do not agree with all the results - - especially putting the president who all but destroyed the Constitutional Republic of the United States at #3!

I would have placed JFK higher for his emotional and moral leadership of America - like Reagan - he gave people hope and pride in America - something severly lacking in the presidents afterwards (except Reagan).

The rest of the rankings? Pretty close.



this added just for FR:

The comment about JFK is how the people viewed him during his presidency -- NOT about his private life as revealed afterwards.

Ridicule him as you wish for the "King Arthur's Court" and "Camelot" imagery, but during those times of fear of nuclear anihilation and other problems - he was what was needed.

It gave the necessary ease of mind and confidence to Americans.


44 posted on 09/13/2005 6:57:12 AM PDT by hombre_sincero (www.sigmaitsys.com)
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To: pissant

He will indeed! He does not care about this, otherwise he would try harder to please his constituency. He leads only by considering what is right, not popular. More importantly, he seeks wisdom from his creator, the ultimate judge.


45 posted on 09/13/2005 7:00:11 AM PDT by All Blue State
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To: SirLinksalot
At most, the United States can possibly have three more Presidents. That is of course, unless it comes to its senses and abandons socialism within the next decade. When the final chapter is written on the United States and its 45 or so Presidents, Franklin Roosevelt or Lyndon Johnson will be ranked last and next to last because they initiated the suicidal socialistic programs that effectively caused the demise of the United States itself. Woodrow Wilson will round out the bottom three because he brought about the changes in the Constitution that made it possible for FDR and LBJ to replace freedom with socialism. Wilson initiated the beginning of the end. "Professional" politicians and socialism had trouble getting established in the United States prior to passage of the Federal Reserve Act and the XVIth and XVIIth Amendments.

Fortunately, there is a way to end socialism and the "professional" politicians' reign of terror. The Constitution can easily be restored in less than a decade. The plan is simple and once launched, easily implemented. At first glance some might consider it a bit daring, but in truth, it is essentially riskless. The risk is that it may prove to be difficult to launch. Freepers and FreeRepublic will be the site of its unveiling and it will be up to the members of FreeRepublic to get this plan launched after it has been unveiled for all to see and understand. We can restore the Constitution and WE the People can take our freedoms back.

46 posted on 09/13/2005 7:00:34 AM PDT by Reaganghost (Democrats are living proof that you can fool some of the people all of the time.)
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To: All Blue State

A very important point!!


47 posted on 09/13/2005 7:01:39 AM PDT by pissant
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To: GianniV
Coolidge could have run for president any number of times. The 22nd amendment wasn't ratified until 1947.
48 posted on 09/13/2005 7:05:30 AM PDT by magslinger (They called Israel the land that GOD Himself gave his Chosen People the Jews.)
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To: SirLinksalot

I remember a book that came out some years ago about the nations' ten worst presidents. (Bush 41 and Clinton were excluded from consideration, as the then-sitting president and his immediate successor.) The list was pretty much what you'd expect.

An added chapter at the end was pretty interesting - our two most overrated presidents. He named Kennedy, and also Jefferson (his logic being that Jefferson is most remembered for his contributions other than during his presidency.) Don't know that I agree on Jefferson, but Kennedy's assassination and the "mystique" built up around him made objective analysis very hard to come by until fairly recently.


49 posted on 09/13/2005 7:05:37 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: atomicpossum

I agree.


50 posted on 09/13/2005 7:07:03 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: mainepatsfan

Yes. That and the Gadsden Purchase from Mexico for a southern railroad.

And if it weren't for Franklin Pierce, we wouldn't have gotten James Buchanan! What a deal!


51 posted on 09/13/2005 7:07:25 AM PDT by RexBeach (Pardon me, but is that a malaise sandwich in your pocket or are you just glad to be in a funk?)
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To: RexBeach

Pierce and Buchanan usually fight for the bottom.

And William Henry Harrison gets a grade of "incomplete" for all time, I guess. No way at all to evaluate someone who caught pneumonia at the inauguration and died a month later . . .


52 posted on 09/13/2005 7:09:12 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: jla
And Cal Coolidge is #23 for heaven's sake! Behind Clinton!

LOL He should have been ranked above Clinton.

Billy Jeff is not going to be happy about this ranking regarding that "legacy".

53 posted on 09/13/2005 7:11:02 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: hombre_sincero

Well, as with all things in life, success is key.

If he succeeds in fundamentally changing things in the Islamic world, he'll be worthy of greater esteem. So far, his leadership has prevented a second major terrorist attack on U.S. soil. I have no doubt that wouldn't be true if Gore had been president.

The new alliances that he has forged to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons and roll up terrorists world wide are an untold story.

But there are so many domestic things that he has been doing, like the tax cut and other economic growth friendly things, the testing of school children, educating people about private accounts for retirement, promulgating the idea of an ownership society, and changing the dynamics of elections.
If you care about life, he's stopped the advance of the culture of death.
If you care about the Second Amendment, he's stopped the advance of gun control.
If you care about activist judges, he's stopped appointing them.

Don't have time to go on, but there has been a real sea change.

Many conservatives believe that it is the luminescence of their philosophy that has won the day in recent years. Most have little idea of how President Bush has humanized, popularized and breathed life into conservative ideals for consumption by average Americans. They float now on his leadership, just as they did on Reagan's leadership.

Don't fool yourself that Americans would vote this way and follow this path with just any ole conservative at the head of the ticket. Look how they voted after Reagan. Especially look how they voted in 1996.

The hardest lesson I had to learn in my life was that when Lincoln said, "You can fool some of the people all of the time," he had no idea just how vast the number of those people were.


54 posted on 09/13/2005 7:25:02 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: SirLinksalot

Apart from sticking out his lower lip and hugging people, what did Clinton do that suggests leadership abilities?


55 posted on 09/13/2005 7:27:35 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: cvq3842
Harding sometimes gets put at the bottom, which I think is unjustified...he wasn't up to the job, but did have some accomplishments in office.

The Presidents just before the Civil War had an extremely difficult situation to deal with it, and failed to cope with it. Jimmy Carter had much less difficult job to do, and was an even worse failure.

56 posted on 09/13/2005 7:35:05 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: popdonnelly

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Apart from sticking out his lower lip and hugging people, what did Clinton do that suggests leadership abilities?
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I don't like Slick Willy personally, but here are some good decisions he made :


1) Welfare Reform ( admittedly, he fought it, but signed it later after Dick Morris told him it was a winner ).

2) Capital Gains tax reduction from 28% to 20%.

3) Property gains tax exemption for the first $500,000 of profits.

4) For conservative free traders, he steadfastly pushed NAFTA.


I don't know if interfering in Bosnia and Kosovo and eventually capturing Milosevic counts as equivalent to freeing Iraq from Saddam Hussein.


57 posted on 09/13/2005 7:36:21 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

I agree with most of the rankings (particularly the bottom four)but McKinley and Kennedy ranked above Monroe and Madison...no way!


58 posted on 09/13/2005 7:44:12 AM PDT by meandog
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To: SirLinksalot

Milosevic gave up power in October 2000 (after losing an election) but didn't surrender to Serbian authorities and get sent to the Hague until 2001 (after Clinton left office).


59 posted on 09/13/2005 7:45:11 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Nonstatist

Buchanan was a very poor president, but so were the series of presidents from Polk to him. The election of 1844 was a victory for Manifest Destiny and the Expansion of Slavery, first into Texas and then into the territories. It established that, instead of gradually and peacefully ending slavery, the preservation of slavery and subordination of freedom in our country would be the cornerstone position of the Democrats for the foreseeable future. The Whigs could not confront this pro-slavery position head-on, and just come out and say slavery was evil. Therefore, that party had to fall apart, and eventually be replaced by one that had the courage to address the issue.

With regard to Warren G. Harding, he was very much like Bill Clinton. He was a very personable fellow, charming, good natured, and prone to indulgence. He did not have the strength of moral character we should demand in our public leaders, and his administration was somewhat corrupt. On the other hand, he had good policies and our country prospered. The main difference between Harding and Clinton is that Clinton was impeached for his betrayal of the trust of the American people, while Harding had the good sense to die while in office and spare us the anguish of impeaching him.


60 posted on 09/13/2005 7:47:45 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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