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La. death toll now 279
The Times-Picayune ^ | September 12, 2005 | The Times-Picayune

Posted on 09/12/2005 11:03:13 PM PDT by DaveTesla

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To: DaveTesla
this is all going to go back to why they didn't evacuate initially.....

there was plenty of time....people were lining up all day Sunday to get into the Superdome....

the storm didn't hit until nearly the next morning and even then, the real flood waters came later....

I understood that someone got the people out of the Marriot ..

why no one for these poor people.....

again, striking differances in the NO police and the nurses hand bagging patients in a hot,humid, dark hell-hole.....

21 posted on 09/12/2005 11:51:57 PM PDT by cherry
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To: DaveTesla
this is all going to go back to why they didn't evacuate initially.....

there was plenty of time....people were lining up all day Sunday to get into the Superdome....

the storm didn't hit until nearly the next morning and even then, the real flood waters came later....

I understood that someone got the people out of the Marriot ..

why no one for these poor people.....

again, striking differances in the NO police and the nurses hand bagging patients in a hot,humid, dark hell-hole.....

22 posted on 09/12/2005 11:52:33 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Jabbar Gibson's first time behind the wheel of a school bus was spent
transporting dozens of people from New Orleans to the Reliant
Astrodome.

23 posted on 09/12/2005 11:57:05 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla
"The Marxist run educational system breeds this culture into our medical practitioners."

do you know what you are saying?.....if my mother was in that hospital,dying anyway, if the docs left ther to drown or be atacked by savages, I damn well would choose morphine for her....

trouble with our society is people are terribly, terribly soft....

we are becoming so fuzzy headed we can't seem to accept the hard realities in life.....

you ever been in severe pain?......would you want to be left on a gurney in the dark damp hell to die a miserable death?....flies, insects of every description all over you, no good air to breathe, the stench of backed up toliets in your nostrils?..the sounds of gangsters just outside waiting to pounce, let alone the rising tide of fetid flood waters?

24 posted on 09/13/2005 12:01:33 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

After the storm passed, nagin and Blanco thought they had dodged a bullet, they were almost ready to start kicking people out of the Superdome and send them home. They told Bush, that the didn't need help.

But then the levee broke just after midnight Tuesday, by morning the water was at rooftops in some places.

Blanco and nagin should have had everyone our BEFORE the storm hit, and it's nobodys fault but theirs. They had days to do it, FEMA was already staged outside the city, Blanco never activated the NG which could have evacuated everyone using those buses. Especially those in nursing homes and hospitals. All those deaths, and that where the body count is from, is THEIR FAULT, and theirs alone.


25 posted on 09/13/2005 12:03:25 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DaveTesla

Just depends on who is doing the math.


26 posted on 09/13/2005 12:08:09 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: cherry
How about being put on a gurney and evacuated out?

The Veterans Hospital did it.

In 20 minutes a school bus could have been stripped of it
seats and in another 20 minutes they could been transported
to a county hospital. So instead of evacuating them they
were left to suffer and then
euthanized ?

DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?

So they should DIE because the hospital personnel refused to evacuate them.
27 posted on 09/13/2005 12:12:18 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla
Don't you find it somewhat curious that the death toll (to date) from Katrina, the ''greatest natural disaster of the past 100 years'' according to at least 4 lefty so-called pundits in the past 2 weeks, has to date a death total more than 150 lower than the total deaths during the baking of Chicago during the '95 heat wave?

Won't even bother asking about the politics of the Chicago city gov't at that time, or the lack of mention in the LSM of this episode, THE greatest politically-caused natural disaster, in terms of deaths, in at least the past 40 years.

The embrace of socialism is essentially a death wish, and socialist governments are hardly to be differentiated, over time, from en passant executioners.

And in many cases historically, one can drop the en passant entirely.

28 posted on 09/13/2005 12:12:37 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: DaveTesla

Several days ago some leftist idiot claimed that in NO they were eating corpses, and it was quoted right here, on FR. This explains the low number of bodies, for the rest must have been devoured.


29 posted on 09/13/2005 12:28:20 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: SAJ
Right you are.

Power Kills:



"The Bible teaches that the greatest among us "is a servant to
all," not our master. In fact, it says, "call no man
master," but God only. "

30 posted on 09/13/2005 12:38:16 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: GSlob

Or they turned to zombies and are roaming the streets looking for the living.


31 posted on 09/13/2005 12:41:54 AM PDT by carumba
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To: DaveTesla

Absentee voters?


32 posted on 09/13/2005 12:47:55 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but recently have come to my senses.)
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To: GSlob
It will turn out that six times (6x) as many people lost their lives on 9/11 with barely a moments notice.

And the leftist media cared nothing for the victims of this
Force Majeure than to use it to try to disgrace a sitting
President and to exploit it to grab more power for the
Marxist stooges that increased the death toll in the first
place.
33 posted on 09/13/2005 12:52:46 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla
Vs 25,000 body bags the race bating, Communism hustling Main Stream Media prophet of doom was selling....

It was the authorities, not the media, who shipped in 25K body bags. Of course, the number of body bags isn't a reliable forecast of the number of dead; better to ask for too many than too few, because the unused ones can always be shipped back to the warehouse.

The high-end estimate of the dead, from what I've seen, was Nagin's 10,000. It reminds me of the immediate aftermath of 9/11, when we were preparing for tens of thousands of victims before settiling on a (still-staggering) number just south of 3000 weeks later. In crisis mode, it takes a while to sort out that Jimmy Smith, Jimbo Smith and James Lee Smith are all the same person, not three people.

All that said, if the final toll doesn't reach four figures, that qualifies as a minor miracle. If half a million people flee chaos and fewer than a thousand die in it, while I don't want to diminish the tragedy of those hundreds of families, that's a pretty solid record.

34 posted on 09/13/2005 12:57:31 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: tophat9000

I think you are right. It seems like over reporting, much looting by people who were more than willing to stay behind and load their vehicles up with loot. Plenty of time to get people out by buses, ambulances and anything else. Time to get LA officals out of that state before any more harm is done.


35 posted on 09/13/2005 12:58:42 AM PDT by Cougar66 (The only liberal movement is what's in their diapers. .)
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To: GSlob

and still no reports of zombies!


36 posted on 09/13/2005 12:59:18 AM PDT by Cougar66 (The only liberal movement is what's in their diapers. .)
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To: GSlob
Several days ago some leftist idiot claimed that in NO they were eating corpses, and it was quoted right here, on FR. This explains the low number of bodies, for the rest must have been devoured.

Sarcasm duly noted, but for values of "they" that aren't limited to humans, there's a point there. Gators and numerous smaller-scale scavengers are at work in those waters. After two weeks, it's a safe conclusion that some remains will never be recovered. Thankfully, that number appears to be lower than feared a few days ago.

37 posted on 09/13/2005 1:05:53 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: ReignOfError
I am not buying.
How would the city know the names of the people that
stayed behind and the ones who left.
In the WTC a reasonable estimate based on the occupancy of
each client that occupied the offices in the towers could
be made.

You will never convince me that the media did not have
(and have)a clear cut agenda here.
In the end the truth comes out.
38 posted on 09/13/2005 1:13:04 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: BurbankKarl

The problem with the UK story is that doctors don't give morphine shots...

You have to get it out of the locked cabinet, sign it off, and the nurses have a key...in addition, the story was supposed to be in a private hospital....not the big municipal ones, where people died...


39 posted on 09/13/2005 1:27:12 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: ReignOfError

They come in boxes of 25,000.


40 posted on 09/13/2005 1:48:51 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (Putin 2008!!)
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