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To: Colonel Kangaroo
As Lincoln said the two regions were too intertwined foe real separation

Freudian typo?

there could not be a long coexistence between the North, a society based on the ideals of freedom of the Founders and a backward society based on slavery principles the ancient Assyrians would be proud of.

Founders, a majority of whom were slaveowners. Or were they the good slaveowners, while their children were the evil slaveowners. Get over yourself, your little hyperbole fools nobody.

895 posted on 10/09/2005 3:47:30 AM PDT by Gianni
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To: Gianni
Are you sure the majority of the Founders were slaveowners?In defense of the 18th century Founders, even most the slaveowners among them weren't as proud of their squalid system as the slave lovers of Dixie were in the 1860s. The leaders of the South regressed while the rest of the country progressed.

"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery—subordination to the superior race—is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. This truth has been slow in the process of its development, like all other truths in the various departments of science. It has been so even amongst us. Many who hear me, perhaps, can recollect well, that this truth was not generally admitted, even within their day. The errors of the past generation still clung to many as late as twenty years ago. Those at the North, who still cling to these errors, with a zeal above knowledge, we justly denominate fanatics."

--Alexander Stephens

898 posted on 10/09/2005 5:24:20 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Gianni

"Founders, a majority of whom were slaveowners. Or were they the good slaveowners, while their children were the evil slaveowners. Get over yourself, your little hyperbole fools nobody."

Actually, I believe there's a line by Jefferson on slavery, you know the "I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just and his wrath terrible(or swift, whatever)"

The previous generation had believed slavery a 'necessary evil' and that one day it would be gone. As abolitionist sentiment increased, the slaveowning South became defensive and asserted a positive identity to slaveholding. The idea of the restriction and destruction of the institution was no more in the South. Which happens to be when the sectional conflict really began.

one writer even commented that slavery was the greatest form of "socialism" on earth. the talk of "wage slaves" in the North was also quite common from pro-slavery Southerners.


1,064 posted on 10/24/2005 4:28:03 PM PDT by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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