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To: 4CJ
you are the ones who can't cite a clause granting the federal government the powers to force a state to remain in the union by military force.

Bahaha! That's a straw-man of your own making, have fun knocking him down. When you get done maybe you can show us the clause in the USC that permits the seceding states to commit fraud, steal Federal property, and attack Federal installations on their way out. The Confederacy was a criminal operation from its inception until it's last feeble breath.

It's a really simple clause, even a child can understand it.

Which helps explain why you neo-secessionists worship it so completely and rely on it so thoroughly, while ignoring most of the rest of the document. Yet it[amendment X] does nothing to explain the fraud, crimes, and treason committed by your secessionist fore-bearers on their way out the door does it?

Some of us are not on welfare, so our time is somewhat limited.

...and yet YOU seem to have plenty of time to reread posts I've made to other members, translate the phrases, and post the translations back up for your fellow cultists, like a good little Ruffiano huh?

'A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.'

Well I certainly wouldn't question the Christian Identity of anyone who would use Holy Scripture to justify holding another man in bondage, so I won't question yours.

Arrivederci Rompicogliotti!

410 posted on 09/20/2005 4:01:15 PM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: 4CJ
until it's last feeble breath.

It has occured to me, on several occasions, that prior generations of Northerners had much more respect for their own war dead.

417 posted on 09/20/2005 7:35:23 PM PDT by Gianni
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To: mac_truck
When you get done maybe you can show us the clause in the USC that permits the seceding states to commit fraud, steal Federal property, and attack Federal installations on their way out. The Confederacy was a criminal operation from its inception until it's last feeble breath.

When were these "alleged" crimes noted by Congress and prosecuted? Congress was fully aware of ALL such incidents, and REFUSED to take action against the seceding states.

The Confederacy was a criminal operation from its inception until it's last feeble breath.

The states seceded via conventions, the governments being republican (representative) in form. For their action to be criminal, their must be laws against republican governmant - and of course, the Constitution required the states to possess republican forms of government.

Which helps explain why you neo-secessionists worship it so completely and rely on it so thoroughly, while ignoring most of the rest of the document.

Ignore WHAT?????? What most of us are waiting for, is for you to post a power DELEGATED to the federal government to prevent secession. The 10th, whether you like it or not, is part of the Constitution.

...and yet YOU seem to have plenty of time to reread posts I've made to other members, translate the phrases, and post the translations back up for your fellow cultists, like a good little Ruffiano huh?

It only takes a moment to read your rants, and a few more to look up translations. [Ruffiano m. (vulgar) bootlicker, servile person] - another indicator of your intelligence and manners.

Well I certainly wouldn't question the Christian Identity of anyone who would use Holy Scripture to justify holding another man in bondage, so I won't question yours.

Wow - a simple quote from the Bible - and you accuse me of being racist?????? I've stated here that according to MY religion - Christianity - we all all of one blood, descendants of Adam and Eve - all brothers and sisters in the eyes of God and myself. Would you also paint George Washington as racist for quoting the Bible? What about this passage,

I believe we shall rise to the challenge. I believe that communism is another sad, bizarre chapter in human history whose last pages even now are being written. I believe this because the source of our strength in the quest for human freedom is not material, but spiritual. And because it knows no limitation, it must terrify and ultimately triumph over those who would enslave their fellow man. For in the words of Isaiah: "He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might He increased strength . . . But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary . . . "
Is the author of that quote a racist? A member of the Christain Identity? The speaker was President Ronald W. Reagan in a speech under date of 8 Mar 1983 - his 'Evil Empire' speech. You're a lunatic, attempting to pass off YOUR beliefs as mine.
423 posted on 09/21/2005 6:57:18 AM PDT by 4CJ
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To: mac_truck
Arrivederci Rompicogliotti!

It's rompicoglioni ['pain in the a**'].

Just another case where you refuse to abide by the rules of the forum: 'Please enjoy our forum, but also please remember to use common courtesy when posting and refrain from posting personal attacks, profanity, vulgarity, threats, racial or religious bigotry, or any other materials offensive or otherwise inappropriate for a conservative family audience.'

424 posted on 09/21/2005 7:04:35 AM PDT by 4CJ
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