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To: 4CJ
Good. I'm glad to see that you admit the federal government, with it's powers enumerated in the federal Constitution, LACK the power to prevent secession.

If you can see that then you need to get your glasses checked. I admit nothing of the sort but maintain my position that unilateral secession as practiced by the southern states is not constitutional.

The Constitution specifically notes that ALL powers not DELEGATED to the federal government (by the Constitution), and those not prohibited (by the Constitution) to the states, remain with the states. It's a simple concept known as the 10th Amendment to the Constitution.

Once you've had your glasses checked please reread my earlier posts. I'm asking where in the Constitution it says that states may resume powers granted to the federal government whenever they feel like it. That's what you claim the Virginia ratification document calls for, but you have to show where the Constitution allows it. I'm waiting for one of you to point that clause out.

358 posted on 09/16/2005 3:20:51 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
I'm asking where in the Constitution it says that states may resume powers granted to the federal government whenever they feel like it. That's what you claim the Virginia ratification document calls for, but you have to show where the Constitution allows it. I'm waiting for one of you to point that clause out.

I didn't cite the Virginia ratification as evidence - I cited the 10th Amendment. It's not not rocket science - it's ENGLISH. The powers NOT delegated to the federal government by the Constitution and NOT Prohibited by the Constitution to the states, REMAIN with the states. Unless you can cite a clause in the Constitution delegating the federal government the power to prohibit secession and/or wage war on a state to prevent such, or cite a clause in the Constitution prohibiting a state from seceding, each state retains the power to leave the union at will.

364 posted on 09/16/2005 8:16:53 PM PDT by 4CJ
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