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To: Gianni
Hamilton wanted to reject the ratification. Madison convinced him that the terms stated were indeed not terms, as they were (pay attention now) inherent to the document itself.

Hamilton didn't live in Virginia, genius. What did he have to do with the Virginia ratification?

It could not be more clear that the ratification is hinged on the terms stated.

It could not be more ridiculous to believe that. Most of the ratification documents contained clauses recommending changes and additions. Some were later incorporated, most were not. But for those states, like New Hampshire, who did not have their recommendations accepted are you suggesting that their ratifications were conditional, and that they can now leave? Virginia's ratification contained 20 assertions and 20 recommended amendments. Many were not adopted. But that does not nullify their ratification.

And the Virginia ratification contained one more line. It contained the sentance, "We the said Delegates, in the name and in behalf of the people of Virginia, do by these presents assent to, and ratify the Constitution recommended on the seventeenth day of September, one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven, by the Federal Convention for the Government of the United States; hereby announcing to all those whom it may concern, that the said Constitution is binding upon the said People, according to an authentic copy hereto annexed, in the words following..." and then appended a copy of the Constitution. So the Constitution was binding, regardless. And nowhere in that Constitution is a provision allowing for states to resume powers granted to the federal government. You can quote Hamilton all you want, but until you can quote the Constitution on this then you're wasting everyones time.

341 posted on 09/16/2005 4:30:19 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
We the said Delegates in the name and in behalf of the People of Virginia do by these presents assent to and ratify the Constitution recommended on the seventeenth day of September one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven by the Federal Convention for the Government of the United States hereby announcing to all those whom it may concern that the said Constitution is binding upon the said People according to an authentic Copy hereto annexed in the Words following;

You're silly.

345 posted on 09/16/2005 6:44:42 AM PDT by Gianni
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To: Non-Sequitur
"We the said Delegates, in the name and in behalf of the people of Virginia, do by these presents assent to ...

Duh! It's a legal phrase meaning 'THIS document' with it's conditions/stipulations. After this sentence came PROPOSED Amendments.

346 posted on 09/16/2005 6:48:46 AM PDT by 4CJ
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