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[Pearidge] Post 803 New York shipping interests, using the Navigation Laws and in collaboration with the US Congress, effectively closed the market off from competitive shipping, and in spite of the inefficiencies, was able to control the movement of Southern goods.

[Pearidge] Post 823 With the control of the transportation trade business being dominated by Northern interests, and now being vastly aided by the Warehousing Act, southern planters began to complain. Many estimated that New York merchants were making 40 cents on every dollar, but being constantly in debt to the New Yorkers, they were hardly in a position to change this state of affairs. The Northerners were in full control of the market. This would eventually turn out to be a major cause of the secession.

Thanks Mac for those fine recapitulations. I do not have to defend those statements. They are direct quotes from the people of the times.

If you folks in the here and now would like to debate those folks, go right ahead. But it will require a Medium.

Got one handy, Mac?

Post 803 New York shipping interests, using the Navigation Laws and in collaboration with the US Congress, effectively closed the market off from competitive shipping, and in spite of the inefficiencies, was able to control the movement of Southern goods.

And yet according to the Statistical Abstract, a full one-third of all shipping tonnage entering US ports from foreign ports was foreign-flagged. That doesn't sound like a closed-off market.

They are direct quotes from the people of the times...if you folks in the here and now would like to debate those folks, go right ahead.

We all know direct quotes are supposed to be identified as such using quote marks, name assignations, and referenced sources. You've provided none of these, preferring to pass the remarks off as your own until you were no longer competent to defend them.

Of course I don't believe they are direct quotes at all [something you could easily disprove if true, but won't]. Either way you have abused the common rules of debate and argument on this forum, and proven beyond any shadow of doubt that you neo-rebs are basically asshats.