Posted on 09/09/2005 6:06:57 PM PDT by Happy2BMe
I didn't save it, Miss Marple, but I will look for it. I also heard it on a Fox Radio broadcast. If I can retrace my steps to it, I'll send you the link.
Did you ever have anyone ask how to flush it? Makes for a good LOL!
Thanks!
When the bucket is full, just go dump it in the woods and start over. Makes great mulch (not for the vegatable garden, though...)
Now that's creative.
During hunting season trespassers would use it and leave the door open. The wind would blow it off and I'd have to put it back on.
Haven't had any flamming mice, but did search the wilderness for some time looking for whoever was cooking the roast beef. Turned off the generator later and discovered some nicely roasted mice in the flywheel.
"not for the vegatable garden, though..."
Night soil. The Koreans and the Chinese use that. We had a Chinese girl work for us once whose grandpa was an expert with the stuff in their Bejing apt...
LOL.
Nagin is in Dallas to meet with 40 NO business leaders to plan for "redeveloping" the city. Really - I am not lying. They are going to carve up the city. The "redeveloping" is the reason for the mandatory evacuation. They will condemn whatever they want and everybody gets rich.
There are exposed manholes in a city's sewer system. They are clearly marked sewer. Do a little research. But that doesn't matter. The area in the water has been contaminated and needs to be cleaned regardless of whether anyone else flushes their toilet. It is going to have to be cleaned anyway. It will naturally decontaminate itself when open to the air and dried. the remainder will be pumped into the lake which will empty into the ocean. This pollution is a drop in the bucket compared to what went into the Mississippi in the 30's 40's 50's and 60's. The Mississippi river was an open sewer for half the country.
Do the manholes open into the open sewage or into a service area surrounding such pipes.
Simply having water present over the septic sewer is not going to result in any substantial mixing at all. I asked, but didn't get an answer to what the significant mechanism of sewage dispersion was. I thought about it and here it is:
Sinks, showers and toilets are all connected together in NO I assume, because they probably don't divert grey water. Grey water is effluent from such things as sinks and showers. The drains for the sinks and showers are all higher than the manhole covers/vents by several feet and as long as the surface of the flood water remains below any particular drain, water will flow down the drain and push sewer water out some hole/vent/seems somewhere in the city.
As long as the toilets aren't used and water use is minimized I don't see a serious problem in the short run. Flood and rainwater flows, or presence do not cause significant mixing, or flows. P traps under the sinks can even be disconnected and 5 gal buckets used to collect water to be dumped in an outside pit later.
The toilets will be used but what is the big deal? There are sewage spills all the time. Big ones. It is not a big deal. The whole area is going to have to be cleaned anyway. It is not creating any further damage.
They open into the sewage. The system needs to be vented. The depth of it varies depending on where you are in the system. As the plumbers say - you need to know two things - Payday is Friday and $#!T flows downhill.
Exactly. At this point just leave them there. By the time they get everyone out, it will be time for everyone to come back.
Minimizing the problems and messes created is an primary objective. Toilets provide fresh food, bugs and solids to the system. That is undesirable on it's face. It also increases the solids content at a time when the flow pattern is abnormal.
Although the spills aren't the equivalent of certain ill, they are to be avoided. What measures are taken to avoid them are the contention. Mandatory evac is a major overkill here.
Well you are contradicting yourself. If people stay they WILL use their toilet. It doesn't matter if they do. The place already has been permeated with sewage. A few thousand more pounds isn't going to hurt anything any worse. They may have an algae bloom in the lake - big deal.
Nope. "If people stay they WILL use their toilet."
Not all. Everyone isn't a careless incompetent slob like some claim. I heard the Jefferson Parish E chief. He got on the air and taught folks. A very reasonable guy. He missed discessing grey water minimization, but hit toilet usage.
You teach them, explain and make requests in a clear rational and civil manner and folks generally get it and behave.
"They may have an algae bloom in the lake "
I doubt it.
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