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Experts: Housing Bubble Deflating
The Olympian ^ | 9/8/2005 | Martin Crutsinger

Posted on 09/08/2005 1:10:12 PM PDT by ex-Texan

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To: Grampa Dave

It's amazing how many people look at short term trends then conclude everything is hunky-dory.


41 posted on 09/08/2005 2:55:10 PM PDT by samm1148
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To: Serb5150

>>I make a decent salary but I can't afford anything other than a dinky apartment conversion.

Sounds familiar. :( My friends and I here in NorCal are all in a similar situation. Well, except I don't have lots of family nearby, so I suppose that is not keeping me from moving.

But I don't miss Winter that is for sure.


42 posted on 09/08/2005 3:04:01 PM PDT by Betis70 (Every generation needs a new revolution)
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To: ex-Texan
Oh, well, not for me to worry, anyway. I'm just a geezer living in Oregon and nobody listens to me anyway.

Ug. You have it all wrong geezer, the housing market is unlimited, paying 50 times the value is normal and also "a good investment". The market can only go up, there is an unlimited number of people willing and able to buy $100,000 homes for $800,000.....just look at FR. No bubble here, I'm going out to buy a shanty in California as we type, some bonehead will pay a cool half million, just because the realtor's say so......

43 posted on 09/08/2005 3:05:23 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Stupidity. NRA)
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To: Grampa Dave

"The rats have lost their last blue state in the South."

Louisiana was not and is not a "blue" state. Like many southern states, Louisiana at the state level is controlled by Democrats. It's a habit of long standing, going back to Reconstruction.

But, don't confuse that with conservative political leanings, when it comes to voting in presidential elections. There are enough who voted Republican in 2004 to have carried the state for Bush, amazing though that may seem in light of the fiascoes of Blanco, Landrieu, Nagin and other Democrats.

New Orleans is not representative of the whole state, in other words.


44 posted on 09/08/2005 3:07:20 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: RegulatorCountry

The same applies to California, however, technically we are a blue state regardless of our Reagan history.


45 posted on 09/08/2005 3:52:16 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: Betis70
I was born and raised in Southern California. Winter had no meaning for me, until I spent this last winter in London.

All I can say is San Diego never looked better.

46 posted on 09/08/2005 4:23:48 PM PDT by Serb5150 (www.illmitch.com)
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To: conservative cat
No. You are incorrect. The new Bankruptcy Act changed everything. People cannot just walk away from their debts and hurricane wrecked houses. Not today. Thank Congress. Both parties joined in the fun. Do not blame Bush, because it's not his fault. But the Democrats will point their fingers at Bush anyway.
47 posted on 09/08/2005 4:27:18 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Sweet, Sen. Mary just lost 400.000 votes.

Nope. She lost 800,000 votes. Each votes twice.

48 posted on 09/08/2005 4:29:37 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ex-Texan

Why do we keep reading the same regurgitated quotes, quips and "facts". It's like one default "bubble" article which has the sentences rearranged in random order, and republished. I don't care what anyone thinks about the subject, but can we please just have some original research or reportage on the real estate market?


49 posted on 09/08/2005 4:30:10 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Baynative

Doom and gloom sells papers, gets viewers. They pander
to the lowest denominator for attracting attention.
The newspapers should be brought up on charges for
destroying trees for no apparent purpose.


50 posted on 09/08/2005 4:33:50 PM PDT by Getready ((...Fear not ...))
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To: Serb5150

The trick is to not wait too long before the interest rates get high again.

I wish we could have bought a couple years ago.

Sigh. Water under the bridge.


51 posted on 09/08/2005 4:50:16 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: ex-Texan

Looks like some are pushing for a one year moratorium for Katrina victims: http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/12583955.htm

Not really fair for people who are hit by future disasters, though.

If both parties were unemployed, they would be able to file, still, since they would be under the median income. I think house prices are too much in some areas and the bubble might burst. In other areas, where they are more modest, I think they will be fine.


52 posted on 09/08/2005 4:54:27 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: ex-Texan

Where are the 53 overpriced metropolitan areas?


53 posted on 09/08/2005 6:42:54 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: Serb5150

>>I was born and raised in Southern California

Ah, I'm more of a wandering gypsy myself. Though other than CT (where I grew up), I've lived in NorCal the longest. A stable job is a nice change of pace from moving every 3-6 months which I was doing in my last career.


54 posted on 09/09/2005 8:57:07 AM PDT by Betis70 (Every generation needs a new revolution)
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To: ex-Texan
Buy low, sell high.

There is a cognitive dissonance involved with Conservatives who don't want to see the end of the housing boom and all that it may entail politically.

Better said, now is a good time to sell!

55 posted on 09/09/2005 3:10:56 PM PDT by Patangeles
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To: conservative cat
I don't see why they can't declare bankruptcy. (Although I don't know how much has changed with the new rules.) They can let the bank foreclose on the property and then declare BK after the bank comes after them for the remainder OR they can just go ahead and declare BK ahead of time and save the foreclosure hassle. (With bankruptcy, you usually aren't allowed to have more than X in equity in your home, which wouldn't be the case in this situation.)

Doesn't the new federal bankruptcy law change all that?

56 posted on 09/09/2005 3:18:52 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: ex-Texan

A week ago Wednesday, there were 3000 homes for sale in Baton Rouge. Every one of them sold by Friday last week. People there are now accepting offers $10,000 higher than their listing price -- something totally unknown there. Baton Rouge used to be one of the places where you could get a good-quality sub $90,000 3/2/2 house. Not anymore.


57 posted on 09/09/2005 3:23:30 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

Somewhat. You must make less than the median income for your area to declare chapter 7. If both are unemployed, that would be the case. If not, they would need to declare chapter 13 (reorg of debts), and would be screwed.


58 posted on 09/09/2005 3:28:41 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: FreedomCalls

I'm just guessing, but perhaps you are noticing the direct inflationary impact of speculators investing in Baton Rouge? Perhaps wealthy investors are betting that homes will be in high demand in your area because of Katrina? But nobody listens to me, anyway. I'm just a retired geezer living in Oregon.


59 posted on 09/09/2005 3:32:34 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: ex-Texan; A. Pole

This looks interesting: http://scoop.agonist.org/story/2005/9/14/201912/760


60 posted on 09/14/2005 9:50:15 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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