Magnetic energy? Perhaps

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 9/7/5 | David Lazarus

[SmithL]

At least they're trying.

[mcg1969]

Oh geez. Another wacko who is sure he's proving the second law of thermodynamics is wrong.

[Oztrich Boy]

I think it's been done

[MarkeyD]

zero-point energy

They've been doing that on SG1 for years.

[Moonman62]

"We're still having trouble making it repeatable, but we think that's more an engineering problem than a scientific problem," he said.

I thought getting a critical mass of gullible people was a marketing problem.

[stuartcr]

All you need, is somebody on a bicycle hooked-up to that, and voila, free power!!

[Born to Conserve]

"Oh geez. Another wacko who is sure he's proving the second law of thermodynamics is wrong."

The second law IS wrong, wacko.

[SpaceBar]

Goldes, 73, is chief executive of a small company called Magnetic Power Inc.

Wow, some credentials. I can do that by driving to town, filling out some forms and paying a filing fee.

[ModelBreaker]

I thought getting a critical mass of gullible people was a marketing problem.

Actually, that the guy is talking about 'repeatability' of the phenomenon speaks well for his sincerity. Zero point energy is probably nothing more than hopeful illusions in his mirror. But as long as he requires repeatability for his gear, he is likely not to be making any bogus announcements.

[mallardx]

That reminds me of some office humor I sent along:

The 3 laws of robotics:
1) a robot should not be able to harm or kill a human

2) a robot should obey a human command unless it contradicts rule 1

3) she should have nice skin, smell good, and serve a good martini

[null and void]

The second law IS wrong, wacko.

Source, please?

[NormB]

"Zero-point energy is so tiny that nobody can feel it"

Sounds like a personal problem.

[Junior]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And pigs'll fly.

If it breaks the laws the physics, it ain't gonna work. Period.

[Yo-Yo]

Maybe another version of the N-Machine?

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Another wacko who is sure he's proving the second law of thermodynamics is wrong.

It would be a violation of the first law. Getting more energy out than was put in.

[mcg1969]

Well, good thing I'm not trying to do it, I can't even keep my laws straight!

[muleskinner]

And from his office in the North Bay city of Sebastopol...

Sebastopol is one of the centers of New Age foolishness in Nor. Cal.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

What Goldes believes he's done is produce power from what physicists call zero-point energy.

Heck, the Ancients powered the City of Atlantis with ZPMs for centuries.

[jslade]

Flux Capacitor?

[USFRIENDINVICTORIA]

The nation that controls magnetism controls the universe.
-- Chester Gould/Dick Tracy