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Magnetic energy? Perhaps
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 9/7/5 | David Lazarus

Posted on 09/07/2005 10:04:20 AM PDT by SmithL

The nation's energy industry is struggling to recover from Hurricane Katrina. Gas prices are soaring as a result of the catastrophic storm. America's reliance on overseas oil increases every year.

And from his office in the North Bay city of Sebastopol, Mark Goldes envisions a day -- perhaps not so far off -- when none of this will be a problem.

Goldes, 73, is chief executive of a small company called Magnetic Power Inc., which has spent years researching ways to, yes, generate power using magnets.

Within a few months, he says, he might just have a breakthrough to report that could revolutionize where people get fuel.

"We're not yet ready to talk about what's happening in our lab because, honestly, we don't know what's happening," Goldes told me. "All we know is that we're seeing more energy output than input.

"We're still having trouble making it repeatable, but we think that's more an engineering problem than a scientific problem," he said.

Does Goldes realize what's he's saying -- that he's perhaps discovered a clean, inexhaustible energy source?

"That's exactly what it appears to be," he answered.

What Goldes believes he's done is produce power from what physicists call zero-point energy. In simple terms, zero-point energy results from the infinitesimal motion of molecules even when seemingly at rest.

OK, let's throw a whole bunch of caveats at this. First of all, I've spoken with physicists at some of the country's most prestigious institutions, and not one said that what Goldes claims to have accomplished is doable.

Theoretically possible, they acknowledged. But not doable.

"Zero-point energy is so tiny that nobody can feel it," said Hossein Sadeghpour, a physicist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. "But when you get to the realm of quantum mechanics, it exists.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: artbell; coldfusion; energy; fission; fusion; hydrocarbons; maxwellsdaemon; zaq; zeropointenergy; zpe; zpm
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At least they're trying.
1 posted on 09/07/2005 10:04:22 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Oh geez. Another wacko who is sure he's proving the second law of thermodynamics is wrong.


2 posted on 09/07/2005 10:05:57 AM PDT by mcg1969
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To: SmithL
I think it's been done
3 posted on 09/07/2005 10:11:58 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (I will not defame New Orleans)
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To: SmithL
zero-point energy

They've been doing that on SG1 for years.
4 posted on 09/07/2005 10:12:15 AM PDT by MarkeyD (Cindy - The new 'C' word! I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: SmithL
"We're still having trouble making it repeatable, but we think that's more an engineering problem than a scientific problem," he said.

I thought getting a critical mass of gullible people was a marketing problem.

5 posted on 09/07/2005 10:12:25 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: Oztrich Boy

All you need, is somebody on a bicycle hooked-up to that, and voila, free power!!


6 posted on 09/07/2005 10:14:51 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: mcg1969

"Oh geez. Another wacko who is sure he's proving the second law of thermodynamics is wrong."

The second law IS wrong, wacko.


7 posted on 09/07/2005 10:15:42 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: SmithL
Goldes, 73, is chief executive of a small company called Magnetic Power Inc.

Wow, some credentials. I can do that by driving to town, filling out some forms and paying a filing fee.
8 posted on 09/07/2005 10:17:38 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Moonman62
I thought getting a critical mass of gullible people was a marketing problem.

Actually, that the guy is talking about 'repeatability' of the phenomenon speaks well for his sincerity. Zero point energy is probably nothing more than hopeful illusions in his mirror. But as long as he requires repeatability for his gear, he is likely not to be making any bogus announcements.

9 posted on 09/07/2005 10:18:11 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Born to Conserve

That reminds me of some office humor I sent along:

The 3 laws of robotics:
1) a robot should not be able to harm or kill a human

2) a robot should obey a human command unless it contradicts rule 1

3) she should have nice skin, smell good, and serve a good martini


10 posted on 09/07/2005 10:25:48 AM PDT by mallardx
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To: Born to Conserve
The second law IS wrong, wacko.

Source, please?

11 posted on 09/07/2005 10:29:18 AM PDT by null and void (Does my life *really* need a sarcasm tag????)
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"Zero-point energy is so tiny that nobody can feel it"

Sounds like a personal problem.

12 posted on 09/07/2005 10:29:29 AM PDT by NormB (Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
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To: SmithL
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And pigs'll fly.

If it breaks the laws the physics, it ain't gonna work. Period.

13 posted on 09/07/2005 10:30:30 AM PDT by Junior (Just because the voices in your head tell you to do things doesn't mean you have to listen to them)
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To: SmithL
Maybe another version of the N-Machine?
14 posted on 09/07/2005 10:32:14 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: mcg1969
Another wacko who is sure he's proving the second law of thermodynamics is wrong.

It would be a violation of the first law. Getting more energy out than was put in.

15 posted on 09/07/2005 10:33:26 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Well, good thing I'm not trying to do it, I can't even keep my laws straight!


16 posted on 09/07/2005 10:36:16 AM PDT by mcg1969
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And from his office in the North Bay city of Sebastopol...

Sebastopol is one of the centers of New Age foolishness in Nor. Cal.

17 posted on 09/07/2005 10:38:51 AM PDT by muleskinner
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To: SmithL
What Goldes believes he's done is produce power from what physicists call zero-point energy.

Heck, the Ancients powered the City of Atlantis with ZPMs for centuries.


18 posted on 09/07/2005 10:41:07 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("Gentlemen. You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Flux Capacitor?


19 posted on 09/07/2005 10:45:43 AM PDT by jslade ("If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried." (Seminole Cty, FL))
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To: mcg1969

The nation that controls magnetism controls the universe.
-- Chester Gould/Dick Tracy


20 posted on 09/07/2005 10:47:59 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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