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FEMA Chief Waited Until After Storm Hit
NewsMax ^ | September 7, 2005 | NewsMax Wires

Posted on 09/06/2005 5:56:44 PM PDT by bobsunshine

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To: armymarinemom

Amazing how people allow themselves to be spun by the America hating media.


101 posted on 09/06/2005 6:59:40 PM PDT by OldFriend (MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH ~ A NATIONAL TREASURE)
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To: bobsunshine

Given the role of the federal government in such situations I think his actions are reasonable. Again, New Orleans and Louisiana have the primary responsibility for dealing with disasters - the federal government's role is to pitch in, not to take over. That the federal government has essentially taken the job over shows a complete failure by the local and state governments.


102 posted on 09/06/2005 7:00:12 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. - Patrick Henry)
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To: OldFriend

"Escapees from the asylum perhaps."

The asylum probably kicked them out after discovering they are stupid instead of insane-stupidity is incurable.


103 posted on 09/06/2005 7:00:41 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (If it can't be used to discredit Bush or cover a Dem's sorry ass, it ain't newsworthy to the MSM.)
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To: spanalot; Howlin; Eagle Eye
Worth repeating

Yes, lies often do need repeating, since most of us aren't gullible enough to believe them the first few dozen times. Since you're having trouble with Google, thought I'd help you out a bit.

From Mike Brown's bio:

Previously, Mr. Brown served as FEMA's Deputy Director and the agency's General Counsel. Shortly after the September 11th terrorist attacks, Mr. Brown served on the President's Consequence Management Principal's Committee, which acted as the White House's policy coordination group for the federal domestic response to the attacks. Later, the President asked him to head the Consequence Management Working Group to identify and resolve key issues regarding the federal response plan. In August 2002, President Bush appointed him to the Transition Planning Office for the new Department of Homeland Security, serving as the transition leader for the EP&R Division.

Prior to joining FEMA, Mr. Brown practiced law in Colorado and Oklahoma, where he served as a bar examiner on ethics and professional responsibility for the Oklahoma Supreme Court and as a hearing examiner for the Colorado Supreme Court. He had been appointed as a special prosecutor in police disciplinary matters. While attending law school he was appointed by the Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee of the Oklahoma Legislature as the Finance Committee Staff Director, where he oversaw state fiscal issues. His background in state and local government also includes serving as an assistant city manager with emergency services oversight and as a city councilman.

Mr. Brown was also an adjunct professor of law for the Oklahoma City University.

A native of Oklahoma, Mr. Brown holds a bachelor's degree in Public Administration/Political Science from Central State University, Oklahoma. He received his J.D. from Oklahoma City University’s School of Law.


Now, call me nuts, but I find this gentleman to be imminently qualified for this position - much more so than a few keyboard warriors who haven't even the foggiest clue as to what FEMA's mission is.
104 posted on 09/06/2005 7:01:50 PM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: Howlin

The Press bashes Bush for ratings. There are a certain percentage of the population who love to hear Bush hate talking points. Listening to FOX is better than watching CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC. FOX bashes but bashes across the board. The Liberal Press conditions people to hate Bush to keep us divided and also to keep certain people watching News instead of competitive sports. Conflict sells.


105 posted on 09/06/2005 7:03:04 PM PDT by Revererdrv
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To: Perdogg

Yes, FEMA is not a first-responder. They notify the local and state governments that they will arrive within 72-96 hours. They were right on time according to their guidelines. If Congress wants to mandate a different procedure they will have to change the old one WHICH THEY APPROVED in the Homeland Security Com. Now they act as though they'd never heard of it.I hate politicians.


106 posted on 09/06/2005 7:03:11 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Irish Eyes

BUMP.


107 posted on 09/06/2005 7:03:16 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (If it can't be used to discredit Bush or cover a Dem's sorry ass, it ain't newsworthy to the MSM.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Well, Terry Ebbert must be changing his tune, because he has been one of the vocal critics blaming the Feds for everything.


108 posted on 09/06/2005 7:03:25 PM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses)
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To: Coop

How many critics have managed 164 declared emergencies? Or even one?


109 posted on 09/06/2005 7:04:16 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Liberalism is an ill fated luxury that we cannot afford at this time; it does not work in a crisis.)
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To: spanalot
Worth repeating

Excuse me, but how much more bilge are you going to post on this forum?

110 posted on 09/06/2005 7:04:32 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: bobsunshine
"Michael Brown, director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, sought the approval from Homeland Security..."

The TSA and 'Homeland Security'(?) has been a joke for years. Tom Ridge and Norman Minetta have proven this. I have taken half a dozen potential 'weapons' on my business trips for over 35 years. A few years ago, I sent the FBI a list of 11 ways to make a flight crew, "uncomfortable." Subsequently, for at least a year I was drawn aside, and patted down, etc. It was a joke. A 53 year old 150 pound, shaven, bald WASP wearing a $500 navy blue pin-stripe suit being patted down and wanded. LOL

Oh well.

111 posted on 09/06/2005 7:05:30 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Eagle Eye
How many critics have managed 164 declared emergencies?

All of them... from the safety of their keyboards.

112 posted on 09/06/2005 7:05:41 PM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: Coop

Wow...and all I've been hearing is how he was some horse-show judge or something.


113 posted on 09/06/2005 7:06:08 PM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses)
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To: Perdogg
Is it SOP to wait?

Yes.

The local governments are responsible for conducting evacuations and setting up shelters. After a request for assistance is made by the Governor of the relevant state, FEMA is responsible to analyze where additional aid is needed (for example after finding where survivors have been sent and what they lack), and if needed the resupplies are to begin to arrive in 5 days.

FEMA beat the snot out of that timetable this time.

114 posted on 09/06/2005 7:06:09 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: spanalot
They certainly should go in immediately after and they SHOULD NEVER STOP FIRST RESPONDERS LIKE THE RED CROSS FROM GOING IN.

FEMA didn't stop the Red Cross from going in. The mayor did.

Larry King transcript - Sep 2 2005

KING: We're back.
Joining us now in Washington is Marty Evans, the President and CEO of the American Red Cross. She traveled with the president today. The Red Cross is not in New Orleans, why?

MARTY EVANS, RED CROSS PRESIDENT AND CEO: Well, Larry, when the storm came our goal was prior to landfall to support the evacuation. It was unsafe to be in the city. We were asked by the city not to be there..

115 posted on 09/06/2005 7:06:43 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: cwb

Apparently that's true, but it's not quite presented in context, is it?


116 posted on 09/06/2005 7:07:02 PM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: bobsunshine
You know folks, there's a reason the local authorities are responsible for the first hours. They know their city and state. Can you imagine dropping people into an area where you know nothing. These guys know which areas evacuated, which areas were likely to flood, how low each area is, where the hospitals are and the old age homes.

THAT is the thinking behind having the first responders be local. They should set up a command and control center and then the feds can come in and work with the locals. They don't work independently of the locals because the area is strange to them.

Good grief, a two year old can figure that out, why can't the media?

117 posted on 09/06/2005 7:07:17 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Global Dumbing far more serious threat than Global Warming)
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To: lepton

As Rumsfeld said, they were leaning forward so much that there were actually moving things before the go ahead.


118 posted on 09/06/2005 7:07:21 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Liberalism is an ill fated luxury that we cannot afford at this time; it does not work in a crisis.)
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To: spanalot; Howlin; Eagle Eye; All
Sorry, I forgot the link to Mr. Brown's bio.
119 posted on 09/06/2005 7:07:58 PM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: McGavin999
Good grief, a two year old can figure that out, why can't the media?

Either incompetence or malicious motivations. Or both.

120 posted on 09/06/2005 7:09:37 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Liberalism is an ill fated luxury that we cannot afford at this time; it does not work in a crisis.)
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