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LOCAL, STATE FAILURES DOOMED NEW ORLEANS (Lonsberry)
boblonsberry.com ^ | 09/06/05 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 09/06/2005 6:35:29 AM PDT by shortstop

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To: zip

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21 posted on 09/06/2005 6:55:37 AM PDT by Mrs Zip
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To: shortstop

I keep thinking this thought: The mayor wants to send his traumatized police force to Las Vega and Atlantic City? Hmmmm! Why those two places, of all places? Gambling? IS the city picking up the tab? Why would gambling give the police force a sense of rest and relaxation? Besides, it begs the question: How, when did they earn this trip? What did they do? According to news reports, less than half were available for duty and more than half, according to some articles, participated in the looting? WOW! What a deal! When they start advertizing for jobs post-Katrina, this ought to make the job a lot more appealing!

This police force, IF you could call it one, is poorly trained and lacks discipline. There's your answer for what happened in NOLA. I'm certain that many were traumatized, but that just shows you that they were improperly trained.


22 posted on 09/06/2005 6:56:53 AM PDT by Shery (S. H. in APOland)
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To: shortstop

If the US Congress does call a "Katrina Commission" investigation, may Lonsberry be the first speaker to appear before it!!!


23 posted on 09/06/2005 7:02:16 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: shortstop
And in the words of Jesse Jackson, standing with a bunch of refugees to whom he brought no water or relief: “This is the hold of a slave ship.”

If there is one national leader to blame, I think it should be Jesse Jackson. Having grown-up in the 7th, 8th and 9th wards in New Orleans, just about every neighborhood had people who were respected are were thus leaders. Then came the 70s and Jesse with a movement to nationalize community role models and leaders. He became the spokesperson for the disenfranchised and with his leadership, his congregation has been growing ever since. Where was he to warn them of the impending storm? Where was Sharpton?

24 posted on 09/06/2005 7:02:41 AM PDT by kipita (Rebel – the proletariat response to Aristocracy and Exploitation.)
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To: shortstop

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25 posted on 09/06/2005 7:04:29 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: cvq3842
Find the facts and let the chips fall where they may. No one should be afraid of the truth.

the problem with that statement is that any commission is formed to HIDE the truth. Like the two most important commissions formed over the last few decades was the Warren commission and the 911 commission, both riddled with untruths and back patting. It's given out to the American people as findings and clarification, when in fact it just confirms what most feel. Having chips fall where they may is all well and good as long as ALL the chips are on the table. Connecting "dots" is easier when the dots remain to be connected. As we're learning now, not all dots are clearly visible, especially if your a democrat. (Berger,Corelick etc)

Doogle

26 posted on 09/06/2005 7:05:51 AM PDT by Doogle (8th AF...4077thTFW....408thMMS....Ubon Thailand "69"..Night Line Delivery ..AMMO)
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To: shortstop

This was a fantasy land, nothing could have been done. The buses could have been there and ready for people but they wouldn't have showed. They could have drilled for weeks practiced evacuation and it would have resulted in what we are seeing now, the welfare/nanny state doomed them.


27 posted on 09/06/2005 7:06:40 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: shortstop; All
Lonsberry sums up the sane view of the NOLA disaster quite succinctly... other than on FreeRepublic, it remains UNTOLD.

The INsane control the airwaves... while WE just sit back and let them!

28 posted on 09/06/2005 7:09:28 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And now, little man, I give the watch to you.”)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
This does not, however, excuse the incompetence of Michael Brown or Michael Chertoff, both of whom should be summarily dismissed.

Absolutely correct.

Many posters on FR have been repeating the claim that the federal authorities were unable to intervene because the local authorities did not give them permission, or that an emergency had not been declared. This turns out to be incorrect -- Blanco declared an emergency on Saturday the 26th. Also, the 2004 National Response Plan already authorizes the federal government to pre-empt local government control in a catastrophe that overwhelms local response.

Now we have the unpleasant spectacle of Chertoff and Brown repeating their lame talking points that it's too soon to assign blame, that we must concentrate our efforts on rescuing people lest more die. Newsweek reports that Rove developed this strategy when the Bush people realized they were in deep political trouble. I wish the Bush team had shown the same alacrity in intervening in this incredible disaster that they are displaying in political damage control.

29 posted on 09/06/2005 7:11:20 AM PDT by megatherium
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To: Kerretarded

I won't say that she intentionally did this to harm Bush, but I will say that from the beginning of this crisis, every decision she made was political, looking for scape-goats. I don't want to repost this article because its rather long, but here is a link to it and some of those reasons:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1477449/posts?page#7


30 posted on 09/06/2005 7:14:09 AM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses)
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To: Doogle

Good point! The 9/11 Commission was largely a waste - imagine how infuriated we would be if Bush had lost the election in 2004 and we only found out about Able Danger this summer. Yet that's undoubtedly what some on the left hoped would happen.

I can't even begin to think about the Warren Commission this early in the morning . . .


31 posted on 09/06/2005 7:18:21 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: megatherium
Newsweek reports that Rove developed this strategy when the Bush people realized they were in deep political trouble.

..Newsweek also reported Bush's military records "recently uncovered" show he did not complete his military obligation.....WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT TURNED OUT

Doogle

32 posted on 09/06/2005 7:20:18 AM PDT by Doogle (8th AF...4077thTFW....408thMMS....Ubon Thailand "69"..Night Line Delivery ..AMMO)
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To: joe fonebone; dfwgator; Doogle
bill and hill are calling for an investigation....i hope they get one!
For pity sakes why?
"O’Sullivan’s First Law" states that
"All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing."
Which is just another way of stating the fact that people with the courage and principle to resist the bullying of "objective" journalism will be labeled "right-wing."

Nobody is objective - least of all people who actually think that they are objective. Journalists are negative, superficial, arrogant and timid. IOW, journalists are left-wing bullies.

We have one deciding body, the electorate. You are engaging in the fantasy that an "independent" commission will be objective. Which is no different from assuming that an "objective" journalist will be objective.

You just have to accept the fact that if a Democrat voter feels entitled to his own facts, he will vote accordingly. There is no way of getting a commission which is independent of the Republicans - who after all seem to need only the truth in the first place - which will come to the truth of the matter.


33 posted on 09/06/2005 7:22:22 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: shortstop
"Instead of inspiring by their example, the mayor and governor were visibly shaken and afraid. They acted like frightened children. Stupid frightened children. "

My Husband and I saw the same thing in the press conferences before the storm hit. Those press conferences had a real "every man for himself" feel.

34 posted on 09/06/2005 7:26:56 AM PDT by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: shortstop
They also lost their NO RTA transit buses, about 400 total.


35 posted on 09/06/2005 7:30:14 AM PDT by Gideon7
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To: cvq3842
"First, we have to save and help the people down there. then figure out what went wrong and fix it. There will be plenty of time to fix blame later."

I'm afraid the need to blame Bush led to more deaths already. All the energy that has gone into blaming Bush for everything from the hurricane to the failed levee could have been used to save lives. Everyone was so busy pointing fingers, that no one stood up to take action (Gov and Mayor). Seriously, you run for office on the Gulf Coast (or any coast), you can expect that a hurricane will eventually make it your way. You run for mayor or gov in California, you can expect a wildfire, mudslide or earthquake will make it your way. Oklahoma, tornados. And so on and so on. Post 9/11 who knows where and when some form of disaster will hit your neighborhood!

That's why cities have practice runs for disaster..or at least should.

36 posted on 09/06/2005 7:34:22 AM PDT by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: megatherium
Blanco declared an emergency on Saturday the 26th

This is a standard DU talking point.

She requested money. She didn't ask for people, i.e., out-of-state NG or FEMA, until after the levy broke.

She is still resisting federalizing the NG even now.

37 posted on 09/06/2005 7:34:52 AM PDT by Gideon7
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To: shortstop

Yes! uh huh!


38 posted on 09/06/2005 7:39:05 AM PDT by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my Pardon with HIS BLOOD!!! Hallelujah!!! What a Savior)
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To: sweet_diane

I agree - the energy right now should be spent saving lives. There will be plenty of time for the rest.


39 posted on 09/06/2005 7:49:26 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Gideon7

A picture is worth a thousand words . . .


40 posted on 09/06/2005 7:50:00 AM PDT by cvq3842
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