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To: ckilmer

Just for the record, the massive flooding in New Orleans was not caused by the storm surge. It was caused by water flow through levee breaches from Lake Pontchartrain.

And it's truly naive to expect local buses to move 1/3 of the city in less than 48 hours. Even assuming that everyone was standing and waiting at bus stations with important medicines and papers in hand.


106 posted on 09/05/2005 10:01:59 PM PDT by Nebullis
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To: Nebullis

"And it's truly naive to expect local buses to move 1/3 of the city in less than 48 hours."

Nonsense....they could have made a huge dent in running all those buses 24 hrs/day instead of sitting there getting flooded out. The effort was pitiful no less.


109 posted on 09/05/2005 10:05:09 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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The buses should have been moving 72 hours BEFORE the hurricane hit.
The roads were dry and passable BEFORE the hurricane hit, and with 500 buses, they could have gotten a lot of people out who WANTED to get out, but, many either chose to stay, or refused to evacuate.
119 posted on 09/05/2005 10:15:01 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Nebullis
And it's truly naive to expect local buses to move 1/3 of the city in less than 48 hours.

400 buses, 60 people per load, going to Baton Rouge, can move 480,000 people in 48 hours.

120 posted on 09/05/2005 10:17:00 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: Nebullis

"And it's truly naive to expect local buses to move 1/3 of the city in less than 48 hours. Even assuming that everyone was standing and waiting at bus stations with important medicines and papers in hand."


Why is it that you who discount bussing people out of harms way as a viable option, which is part of the mandatory evacuation plan for New Oleans by the way, seem to think that unless total success is to be had, it's a bad idea?


122 posted on 09/05/2005 10:18:14 PM PDT by kenth (north Georgia mountains - prayers for all our neighbors in the gulf coast.)
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To: Nebullis
Just for the record, the massive flooding in New Orleans was not caused by the storm surge. It was caused by water flow through levee breaches from Lake Pontchartrain.

The levee was engineered to withstand a category 3 hurricane. The state government knew the storm heading their way was a category 5, and that the levees could easily break. If they didn't know that, maybe they weren't qualified for their positions. They should have let the Feds deal with it from the beginning. Look how many people have been saved since Bush took over. Imagine how many could have been moved BEFORE the flood!

123 posted on 09/05/2005 10:19:51 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: Nebullis
And it's truly naive to expect local buses to move 1/3 of the city in less than 48 hours. Even assuming that everyone was standing and waiting at bus stations with important medicines and papers in hand.

Every day, 1/4 of Philadelphia rides on SEPTA's buses. I doubt it is any different in New Orleans. I'm sure that given 48 hours, they could have ferried everyone out had there been an actual plan.

130 posted on 09/05/2005 10:41:13 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Nebullis
Just for the record, the massive flooding in New Orleans was not caused by the storm surge. It was caused by water flow through levee breaches from Lake Pontchartrain.

And exactly what, then raised the Ponchartain water level so that it slopped over the levees and started eroding them?

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And it's truly naive to expect local buses to move 1/3 of the city in less than 48 hours.

And what is it to defend not using them at all -- not even trying to save as many lives as possible?

What/who are you trying to defend?

182 posted on 09/06/2005 12:23:38 AM PDT by TXnMA (Iraq & Afghanistan: Bush's "Bug-Zappers"...)
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