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To: usnjay
Objectivism doesn't require atheism any more than conservativism requires religion. There are many Chrisitian objectivists.

Objectivism regards altruism as being immoral. I would hardly consider that Christian.

17 posted on 09/05/2005 6:34:34 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: Moonman62

"Objectivism regards altruism as being immoral. I would hardly consider that Christian."

Right, that seems to be the sticky wicket of the thing.


20 posted on 09/05/2005 6:47:59 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Moonman62
Objectivism regards altruism as being immoral. I would hardly consider that Christian.

Objectivism regards the giving up of a greater value for a lesser one as being immoral. If, as a Christian, you value the life in the Spirit above the life of the flesh, then you will live up to those values.

Objectivism says that existence exists, and that reality cannot be ignored. Even Jesus did not ignore reality. He said that "You will always have the poor around you, but you will not always have me around". (Justifying the attention Mary Magdalene was giving him)

Sure, Rand's strict construction of Objectivism regards any spiritual inclination as "mysticism" and therefore immoral. I believe, however, that Objectivism is valuable for helping Christians prioritize matters of the flesh and matters of the spirit, and to realize that God may comfort you in bad times and forgive you your sins, but you're gonna have to bust your butt if you want that Lexus.

23 posted on 09/05/2005 7:24:10 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (My tagline has been looted.)
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To: Moonman62
Objectivism regards altruism as being immoral. I would hardly consider that Christian.

You're correct, but with some necessary qualifications: Objectivism regards BENEVOLENCE as moral, but altruism -- as it was originally defined when the word was invented by Kant and Comte -- as immoral. Why? Because altruism was supposed to be COMPULSORY -- and THAT'S what dictators and less-brutal politicians have always used it as in the almost 200 years since the word was invented, and THAT'S why Objectivists object to it. As a wise man once said, "Compassion comes from the heart, not the government."

48 posted on 09/06/2005 7:58:07 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end."J.D.Acton)
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