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Katrina Live Threads, Part XV
Various ^ | 4 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:14:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: tomkat

Trust me, a rare event;)


381 posted on 09/04/2005 8:34:49 PM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: lugsoul

lugsoul - have you seen the Washington Post story today? Blanco didn't even request National Guard assistance from other states, despite their offering, until Wednesday. Late Wednesday, as I recall.

I have to wonder how many children and women were raped for hours as recounted by a relief worker above on this thread because Blanco didn't seem to understand the drug/gang problem that she had in New Orleans and had placed into a Dome and other shelters with improper law enforcement security.


382 posted on 09/04/2005 8:35:13 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: tomkat
It's a flash page - iow, you need flash installed on your machine to see it.

Thanks. My old Mac won't run Flash. That's the problem. But maybe someone can extract the time-line and info so it can be read page-by-page in a browser and printed as text. That would make it available to a larger audience.

383 posted on 09/04/2005 8:35:23 PM PDT by zot (GWB -- four more years!)
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To: kcvl

I wonder why all these people who had the resources to show up with their respective crews to get face time didn't forgo the photo ops and help with the rescue or just deliver water. Instead all they do is whine about how easy it was for them to get in and how bad it is. Sheesh, Hollyweird.


384 posted on 09/04/2005 8:36:41 PM PDT by Jaded (Hell sometimes has fluorescent lighting and a trumpet.)
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To: lugsoul

Also, and I'm not trying to be argumentative, I think an investigation will reflect that despite the head of the National Weather service begging the mayor to order a mandatory evacuation, he neglected to do so.

The mayor also made no plan to use city or commercial buses to help the poor and those without resources to a safe area.

Had the president not pressured the mayor and governor to order a mandatory evacuation, we'd be looking at untold more dead.

To add to what I said above regarding the Governor neglecting to call in additinal National Guardsmen to help with security, she also had to know what the Chief of Police in New Orleans knew. That 2/3's of his workforce either didn't show up after the hurricane or walked off the job, leaving NO with 500 policemen trying to deal with anarchy.


385 posted on 09/04/2005 8:39:23 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: TexKat

Guess that's why the Governor with all her forethought asked the pre-evacueees to bring their own food for the few days they might be in the Dome.


386 posted on 09/04/2005 8:40:31 PM PDT by Gimme
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To: ShellieGOP

Catering to illegals and nutcases is what got your state into that mess. Texas is going to end up having well more than 250,000 refugees by Monday. California, with its vast open spaces in the north, stadiums closed by enviro nuts, and unused arenas has taken... drumroll please....

750.

Seven hundred and fifty.

That's all.

This is Texas. We took point. We're doing the job. It's up to the REST of y'all to do your jobs.


387 posted on 09/04/2005 8:40:35 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: NautiNurse

I am not suggestion posting pix ;)
but here is a nice photo link to Hattiseburg American newspaper.

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=HURRICANE


388 posted on 09/04/2005 8:41:03 PM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: BurbankKarl
Are you serious?! Was this picture taken today! Disugusting beyond belief if true.
389 posted on 09/04/2005 8:41:23 PM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: myprecious; TonyInOhio

Rubber flip flops?
FReepers may still have there's from the John "Flip Flop" Kerry campaign for President!
Tony, can you ping?


390 posted on 09/04/2005 8:41:55 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Lurk forever, but once you post, your newbness shines like a new pair of shoes.)
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To: lugsoul
"I hope we don't see the Administration trying to push the 'we weren't asked' line, because they'll get crucified with their own document if they do."

I haven't seen the Administration say anything of the sort. What makes you think it?

391 posted on 09/04/2005 8:42:16 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: gpapa

Maybe you can help me understand better.

From your post that you linked me to earlier, I find the following quote in the letter from Gov. Blanco to President Bush dated Aug. 27th, before the hurricane landed:

"Pursuant to 44 CFR § 206.35, I have determined that this incident is of such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capabilities of the State and affected local governments, and that supplementary Federal assistance is necessary to save lives, protect property, public health, and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a disaster. I am specifically requesting emergency protective measures, direct Federal Assistance, Individual and Household Program (IHP) assistance, Special Needs Program assistance, and debris removal"

Am I wrong to think that this indeed was a request from Gov. Blanco to Pres. Bush for federal help before the storm hit?


392 posted on 09/04/2005 8:42:40 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: jveritas

Yes!


393 posted on 09/04/2005 8:43:01 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: myprecious
mp, i googled flip flop sandals and got lotsa hits.

here's one as a start: 1-800-958-4332

394 posted on 09/04/2005 8:43:02 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Cboldt
Gordon plans to tour the flood areas this weekend to get a first hand assessment of the tragedy and to coordinate with NAACP branches that have organized to help distribute food and evacuate victims. The NAACP is also working to have additional buses go to New Orleans to transport victims out of the city and with the National Association of Black Owned Hotels to provide hotel rooms. In addition, the NAACP has secured contributions of emergency supplies for distribution in the flood areas.

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395 posted on 09/04/2005 8:43:12 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Peach

I will never forget the pictures of the city buses and school buses just flooded in their parking lots...

I suppose DHS, FEMA or Bush were supposed to go get those buses and fill them up before the hurricane got there...

If that had happened...there would have been screaming from all sorts of groups....especially if the hurricane didn't hit NO...

Besides...why have a mayor or Governor if the FEDERAL government is supposed to be responsible for everything?


396 posted on 09/04/2005 8:43:18 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: LA Woman3

I doubt it. They're going to post Texas DPS troopers on those boats.

I really wouldn't want to be the guy that tried anything there.


397 posted on 09/04/2005 8:43:51 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Peach

A Freeper had suggestd cameras in the Dome, and at the time, I thought it undignified to film people in their misery.
Now that I see what evil is capable of (and where is resides), I have to rethink this assessment. I was horribly wrong. The film cameras may have deterred this evil.


398 posted on 09/04/2005 8:43:59 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Lurk forever, but once you post, your newbness shines like a new pair of shoes.)
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To: All

Don't you love that "that's the question". See 10:20 pm.
Nagin is ignoring the primary question and his culpability:
Would fewer people have died if you [Nagin] and your local officials had done your job?


From WWL.

Updates as they come in on Katrina

10:27 PM CDT on Sunday, September 4, 2005

Tom Planchet

10:23 P.M. - CBS News — Watch '60 Minutes' interview with Mayor Ray Nagin

10:21 P.M. - Nagin told '60 Minutes' that he did not unload on President Bush during his visit to New Orleans, like he did earlier this week on WWL Radio. The president did acknowledge, however, that federal response could have been better, Nagin said.

10:20 P.M. - Nagin on '60 Minutes' - "Did more people die because of the storm or because of the lack of response? That's the question."

10:19 P.M. - Mayor Ray Nagin on CBS' '60 Minutes' - "I watched a guy jump from the Superdome yesterday ... We've had two police officers commit suicide. ... This is hell."


399 posted on 09/04/2005 8:44:27 PM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Spktyr

(hanging head in shame)
Ohio took none.
We can barely afford the folks we have.
I need to move......


400 posted on 09/04/2005 8:45:37 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Lurk forever, but once you post, your newbness shines like a new pair of shoes.)
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