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To: Palladin
It is more out of a social structure and sense of social obligation (allegiance to the GROUP for the greater, larger good), that allows the Japanese in general, with a few minor exceptions, to sublimate personal issues, wants and desire and impatience, and be more 'other' centered. There is little mentality of 'entitlement'. Thus, they have a much much longer shelf life of patience in these kinds of disastrous things, and generally don't come unglued like we are seeing in New Orleans. It is not so much Buddhist or Shinto temperment, as it is 'Japanese village culture' (shudan dotoku) of not being self-centered and selfish, but rather, self-reliant, cooperative, respectful of authority and it's orders, and full of pride, obligation, brave in the face of discomfort and pain, sense of 'face', loyalty and honor (and shame at the risk of ostracism, if one decides to do wrong). The ghetto morality in the United States is almost the opposite. It is in precisely doing WRONG and acts of extreme selfishness, then one is "included" and not ostracized and one must be evil and tough and even menacing to survive at times.
1,803 posted on 09/01/2005 8:33:14 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (USA should be studied by StateDept. as a "Foreign Country". Then will see OUR insurgents and chaos.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Thank you for the explanation. You must enjoy living among such people.


1,847 posted on 09/01/2005 8:38:46 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
It is more out of a social structure and sense of social obligation (allegiance to the GROUP for the greater, larger good), that allows the Japanese in general, with a few minor exceptions, to sublimate personal issues, wants and desire and impatience, and be more 'other' centered. There is little mentality of 'entitlement'. Thus, they have a much much longer shelf life of patience in these kinds of disastrous things, and generally don't come unglued like we are seeing in New Orleans. It is not so much Buddhist or Shinto temperment, as it is 'Japanese village culture' (shudan dotoku) of not being self-centered and selfish, but rather, self-reliant, cooperative, respectful of authority and it's orders, and full of pride, obligation, brave in the face of discomfort and pain, sense of 'face', loyalty and honor (and shame at the risk of ostracism, if one decides to do wrong).

Is this the culture that allows Japanese to bury Chinese up to thier heads and run them over with tanks, march US troops to thier death, commit suicide at the highest rate in the world, or the culture that makes largest and most voracious market for prostitution in Asia? Just curious...

1,870 posted on 09/01/2005 8:42:25 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Informative post. Thank you!


1,877 posted on 09/01/2005 8:43:24 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: AmericanInTokyo
... it is 'Japanese village culture' (shudan dotoku) of not being self-centered and selfish, but rather, self-reliant, cooperative, respectful of authority and it's orders, and full of pride, obligation, brave in the face of discomfort and pain, sense of 'face', loyalty and honor (and shame at the risk of ostracism, if one decides to do wrong).

Excellent comparison to the image opposite on display in New Orleans.

1,939 posted on 09/01/2005 8:55:48 PM PDT by Siobhan (Pray the Chaplet of Divine Mercy.)
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