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Posted on 09/01/2005 3:46:26 PM PDT by NautiNurse
There were two disasters that have been an overwhelming problem..The large numbers of people who chose to ride it out for various reasons and the flood...The flood made an orderly evacuation and rescue impossible and the armed gangs that really started looting before the flood are shooting at the rescuers..They are endangering the lives of the victims and their rescuers...
Reporter at NO police station saying fires and some explosions going on..railroad cars..concerned about what was in them..5th district. Haz Mat on its way
"Although you are clearly an expert in incompetence, I'm not sure your personal inadequacies equip you to make sweeping judgments regarding the current effort in NO."
People with limited faculties for communication resort to personal attacks when frustrated. My comments on this thread have been clear, accurate and non-personal or, when attacked first, in kind. I would appreciate the same courtesy.
1. Why would I bring up Thailand and the Tsunami? Because to have a base on the ground and supplies offloading FROM SHIPS in five days means that the whole operation was planned and executed in MUCH less time than that. This article from USA today
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-01-03-tsunami_x.htm
and this one from the Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38860-
indicates that carrier task force was already ferrying seaborne supplies to Bande Ache Indonesia as well. We were far far more efficient in getting supplies together, loaded, shipped, and downloaded half-way accross the world than we have been here. That was my point. And nothing you have said addresses it.
2. As for Falluja, being "secured" does not mean that there is No Fighting Whatsoever. It means that the US is in positive control of the city and the terrorists are holed up sniping or hiding. That is why it is entirely accurate to say that we had the major part of Falluja (80%) secured in five days whereas the same simply cannot be said of NO.
All of this together points to a major screw up. There is simply no getting around it.
"Explosions at or near Superdome... "
Just when I thought I was going to bed!
Prayers up (again) for the folks down there (and the firefighters, and cops).
"Explosions at or near Superdome... "
Is there anybody out there monitoring the scanners tonight?
It is now, but the nightmare also will end, and things will get better. In fact, they may grow better very quickly, though it appears at this point that we are seeing the slow version of recovery.
But recover we will. I am certain of this; history shows that people have weathered terrible occurrences and the most important thing is to continue to put one foot in front of another --- just the fact of any progress is more important than how fast it occurs initially. Once we get a bit of traction, things will look a lot better.
"They really need to screen their interviews."
This is CNN -- they did screen their interview..
Right. If the levee hadn't broken (I know, "If wishes were horses, . . ."), riding it out wouldn't be seen now to have been such an awful choice.
And people were posting yesterday about the "72-hour" rule for hurricane territory: i.e., keep three days' worth of supplies just in case, because things won't be organized enough for any assistance or function for that long. Makes sense. No one seemed to note, though, that a second 72 hours started with the levee breach. (How do you calculate that? Let them overlap, or add another 72 hours?)
Thanks for encouraging words snowsislander. I got up today at 3am, after all the coverage yesterday, there was no way I could sleep. I pray it occurs sooner than later.
We're watching the actual breakdown of our society. It's NO today, but it could be any city next time.
One thought that keeps coming to mind is something Fr. Coropi said in one of his talks/tapes...."Immorality is the single greatest threat to national security". He developed a powerful argument to support the thesis.
We have taken God out of the schools and out of the public square. God will not intrude where he's not wanted. So now people say....God help New Orleans. Whenever great disasters like this occur great good come out of it. Perhaps a return to moral life will be a result of this terrible tragedy.
I've heard that there's no chemical plant near the Superdome.. maybe gas lines exploding?
This is literally Hell on earth.
And now the refuge buses are being turned away at the Astrodome.
Soon we will hear of desperate buses of dying people roaming from town to town.
Others will walk out in a death march of all death marches.
My anger at the rapists and thugs who prevented an orderly rescue is beyond comprehension.
...Well, it is MSNBC after all. It would be weird to have a Chemical plant so close to the tourist areas.
Now saying a warehouse with chemicals stored and railcars nearby.
On CNN, they are actually discussing in a rational and lucid way the difference between MS, where there is little to no looting and NO, where the looters essentially rule the streets.
The man they are interviewing, I think he is a state police official, said it was in the very beginning essential for Blanco to use the same language and same force against the looter as Barbour in MS. HEr failure to do this is one direct cause of the present chaos
"..eldery and children are dying and children have been beaten and raped."
We're talking about Fallujah right?
If it were me, I'd be walking up the crecent city connection or down the levee and get out of that place. Shoot, it's not even flooded across the river in Algiers. And the water there last I heard was drinkable.
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