Katrina Live Thread, Part XIII

Various ^ | 1 September 2005 | Various

[Arizona Carolyn]

valerian and melatonin -- 20 minutes and you'll sleep like a baby.

[Dolphy]

Then he goes on and on about 9/11 and how he KNOWS what they are going through...

The only good instruction he can get from 9/11 is what local leadership means in the time of crisis.

[tcrlaf]

ok... Assuming 250,000 people in the affect NO area..

Now multiply that gallon by 96 gallons per pallet, 24 pallets per semi...

that's 2100(!!) SEMI-LOADS of water a DAY. Each truck could make 3 trips per day, that's 700 SEMIS, requiring 700 drivers, 2100 meals (45 cases of MRE's- 2 pallets)

Assume that each truck is staging from ONLY Baton Rouge, and the round trip takes 20 gallons of fuel, that's 42,000 gallons, or 7 tanker loads...

I hope you begin to see the enormity of the logistical task...

[PAR35]

Orleans Parish, Louisiana total pop =4,496,334

No. Off by a factor of 10.

2000 Census - 484,674
1990 census - 496,938
2004 estimate - 462,269.

So over 34,000 decline in the last 14 years.

[WVNan]

We lost our well during the 7 quake here a few years back. With an entire goatherd, huge chicken flock, and 4 kids, it was a small disaster for us to not have water. Fema was at our front door 4 or 5 days later with an offer of a check,p>MarMema, I just can't help but remember back to my childhood when any given summer when it didn't rain enough, my grandparent's cistern would dry up. They had a 40 acre farm with animals, crops, garden. So what did they do? Call FEMA? Nope. Grandpap hitched up the horses to the wagon, loaded four or five big barrels and drove a mile one way to the nearest creek where there was also a spring to be found. Filled up the barrels, watered the animals and the garden, and made another round trip for more barrels. This was a daily chore until the rains came again. Just one example of how soft we are and how we have lost our self-reliance.

[SunnySide]

its just too much to write off to plain incompetence, it went on far too long. other posters on previous threads mentioned that the Democratic machine in LA does not like Mayor Nagin because he supported Bush for president, this may well explain why his calls to ask the governor to ramp up security using state resources and the guards, just fell on deaf ears.
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This would not shock me one bit, it could have well been a local Democratic orchestrated Union like strike, hurricane victims be damned. LA, with all it's decades of embedded corruption and paid off front puppets.

[SolomoninSouthDakota]

"Except of course for the 2 dead bodies they showed outside the civic center."

Obviously, I was speaking of the living. We have to remember too that in a city the size of NO, there would be a pretty good sized listing of people in the obituaries even on a good day. I stand by what I saw--many people sitting around looking pretty laid back outside the Civic Center. The focus of compassion should be on those trapped still in their homes and dehydrating.

[Pyro7480]

WHAT THE HELL!? They could have bussed people out of there no problem! Gross mismanagement. A pox on much of the LA leadership!

[Kryptonite]

Before you criticize anyone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, you'll be a mile away from them and still have their shoes.

[wolficatZ]

latest Shoutcast scanner stream list:

http://www.shoutcast.com/directory/?s=scanner&numresult=100

[conservativebabe]

Not to mention, as a former Iowan, there are plenty of black people in Iowa. Des Moines and Davenport for starters.

[CindyDawg]

Well, I would like to see President Bush at the Astrodome (when it's safe) with a medal in one hand and SnowBall in the other:')

[jeffers]

Katrina made landfall around 0600 CDT Monday morning, south of Empire, LA, crossed the bay and made landfall at Pearlington, Miss. at 1 PM Monday.

The first levee breach occurred at 0100 Tuesday morning at the 17th St. Levee. Somewhere towards mid afternoon Tuesday (IIRC), it became clear that efforts to seal the breaches were failing, and the Mayor ordered the total evacuation of the city.

[luckystarmom]

What's velerian??? I

[Arizona Carolyn]

Our local news has a reporter that was evacuated tonight, says it is the next best thing to anarchy tonight in NO... he says it has gone from bad to worse and people with young children are still there waiting.

[SolomoninSouthDakota]

"Just one example of how soft we are and how we have lost our self-reliance."

You got it right. Excellent story. People ought to read the book "Pushing to the Front" by Orison Swett Marden.

[Kryptonite]

And why won't anybody say that if these people had evcauated in the first place, we wouldn't be wasting all this time moving them around?

Because we're supposed to believe that their welfare checks weren't big enough to buy bus tickets, according to trash I've read.

[kenth]

Yeah, flooded New Orleans' school buses.

[conservativebabe]

Thank you for clarifying that information, very helpful.

Did you get that Howlin?

[easonc52]

Haven't got the whole response thing figured out here, yet...

You just click 'Post Reply' below the post you're wanting to respond to.

It also helps to copy and paste the part of the person's post that you're wanting to respond to, so anyone knows what you're responding to.