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Will New Orleans survive? (Just posted on Times-Picayune web site)
New Orleans Times-Picayune ^
| August 30, 2005
| James Varney
Posted on 08/30/2005 3:53:30 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War
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To: Dark Knight
"So what happens in the North East aside from Kerry?"
Liberalism is in itself a disaster, albeit self-inflicted.
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posted on
08/30/2005 5:43:59 PM PDT
by
PLMerite
("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
To: Dick Bachert
Bye...I just notified the mods. No need for that crap on this thread.
To: WestTexasWend
I was Biloxi a few months ago and went to the little public beach next to the casinos, sat a bench,looked around, and thought about how terrible it must have been when Camille hit.I can't believe it's happened again.
To: Constantine XIII
The fundamental purpose of the government to protect the lives and property of US citizens?The fundamental purpose of government is to protect individual rights and secure individual liberty. It is not to serve as the gunman & enforcer for a redistributionist protection racket to bankroll irresponsible risk taking. There is no real risk in personal choices when the fall back is to approach those that have chosen to be careful, studious and reserved, in order to protect themselves and their resources, and point a government gun at them and say, "Stick'em up and hand me your wallet!", in order to pay for others refusal to bound themselves and their choices within the reality of what is wise & prudent and what they can afford.
It's easy to want to play, when you're not the one that has to pay.
Insurance companies can choose not engage in contracts and end up having to pay for it, WHY CAN'T I???
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posted on
08/30/2005 5:46:57 PM PDT
by
Lester Moore
(islam's allah is Satan and is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.)
To: LOC1
The Japanese have landfilled large sections of ocean side to make land for airports, oil refineries and industrial complexes. NO can do the same.
To: Lester Moore
Insurance companies can choose not engage in contracts and end up having to pay for it, WHY CAN'T I??? Don't worry.
The corrective nature of the Free Market will preclude the foolish idea of rebuilding in the current locale.
What group of shareholders would gamble on rebuilding NOLA in the Bowl?
To: Keith in Iowa
Part of me thinks not. People who choose to live in places like that should be willing to take the responsibility for their choices...and not expect to spread their risk on society. But, perhaps, another part of you should think otherwise. Everybody lives somewhere under the specter of a natural calamity. I live in tornado alley. Others live on fault lines (active and inactive). Still others live in the woods, where forest fires happen.
Miami is exposed to not only hurricanes, but tidal waves.
For its part, New Orleans is in a flood plain. As are at least parts of every major city in the country located on a river (as most of them are -- at one time, Indianapolis was the largest city in the US not on a navigable waterway).
An "act of God" can, by definition, strike anywhere, anytime. And the Big Easy just took a helluva smiting.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the city rebuilt in essentially the same location. In fact, I would root for such an event. But with some new and very innovative re-engineering of nature...
Pray for Jackson Square...
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posted on
08/30/2005 5:56:54 PM PDT
by
okie01
(The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
To: Eric in the Ozarks
The Japanese have landfilled large sections of ocean side to make land for airports, oil refineries and industrial complexes. NO can do the same. Fine... let NO-ians fund it.
Do we REALLY need another big... BIG DIG?
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To: Lester Moore
"...It is not to serve as the gunman & enforcer for a redistributionist protection racket to bankroll irresponsible risk taking...." You dont think that's just a little bit hyperbolic?
To: XEHRpa
New Orleans is older than the USA. Lots of history there. I don't think its residents will give it up, at least not without a fight.
To: bikepacker67
I think we're going to get one, right up our ...
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
That post WAS NOT ADDRESSED TO YOU.
Have your keeper re-read it to you after your shock treatment.
To: fhlh
Should the tax payer be on the Hook when San Fransisco falls apart after the next big quake hits???
I dont think so.
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posted on
08/30/2005 6:15:21 PM PDT
by
Chickensoup
(Mmmmmmm! Mmmmmmm! Good!)
To: bikepacker67
The corrective nature of the Free Market will preclude the foolish idea of rebuilding in the current locale.The problem is, Free Market forces are not being allowed to come to bear upon the decisions/risk taking of those people.
They're already projecting the expectation that we will all pay for the rebuilding of their square, frame houses, below sea level on a hurricane coast.
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posted on
08/30/2005 6:15:32 PM PDT
by
Lester Moore
(islam's allah is Satan and is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.)
To: Dont Mention the War
![](http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/34/75/12m.jpg)
Is that you, VERNE?
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posted on
08/30/2005 6:16:36 PM PDT
by
rvoitier
(SMILE! There's a NYT reporter in jail.)
To: Dark Knight
So what happens in the North East aside from Kerry?
Ice storms.
Which are a darn sight better than the Massachusettes trio: Kerry, Kennedy, and Frank.
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posted on
08/30/2005 6:17:24 PM PDT
by
Chickensoup
(Mmmmmmm! Mmmmmmm! Good!)
To: WestTexasWend
magnificent live oaks
Just an aside. Why is it up here in the northlands when we talk about oak trees we just say oak trees but in the south oak is usually preceeded by the word "live?"
The only time we up north discuss the mortality of an oak is when it is dead.
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posted on
08/30/2005 6:19:49 PM PDT
by
Chickensoup
(Mmmmmmm! Mmmmmmm! Good!)
To: okie01
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the city rebuilt in essentially the same location. In fact, I would root for such an event.Please be sure and 'root' for it with your money & not with mine.
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posted on
08/30/2005 6:20:17 PM PDT
by
Lester Moore
(islam's allah is Satan and is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.)
To: XEHRpa
New Orleans DID dodge a bullet. This devastation is VERY MUCH better than what I feared on Sunday. People were doubting the possibility that hundreds of thousands could have died. If waves would have pounded from Pontchartrain during the hurricane, everyone waiting for a rooftop rescue would have fallen into turbulent, debris-ridden water. Almost all would have died. The water would be 10 or even 20 feet deeper in the city and very turbulent, and few buildings could have survived. Most of the city (but not all) may be obliterated, but its people remain alive to be rescued. The storm did not annihilate them yet.
It looked yesterday as if widespread rescues would be necessary; it just looks a little worse today. Perhaps that tips the balance between saving and leaving the city. Probably at least the Mississippi levee region--at least those parts not underwater--survive and will thrive.
The people of New Orleans probably will be placed under crushing personal debts. Taxation certainly will not cease; renters must continue to pay until they can restore their premises to their former status or pay to make the repairs. Even if the city disappears, the taxes will remain eternally; as Democrats, the city government probably will raise taxes to resurrect whatever part of the city they can.
I'm guessing that most don't have the money, and banks won't make loans. Insurance won't pay for anything submerged. Many insurers may not pay anyway because of the volume of claims. Obviously, mortgages will come due, and banks probably soon will demand immediate payment. The overwhelming majority this debt will go on credit cards, probably with sureties that the debtors will reject charity, pass the debt to their heirs, and remand all eligibility for bankruptcy. Interest rates will exceed 20%, probably mostly 200%+. As such, these people always will remain extremely poor and homeless and may spend generations in debt peonage.
And the people probably are committing all sorts of code violations (e.g., noxious odors, unsanitary conditions, etc.) and breaking laws (especially looters). As such, most will face extensive fines and probably long terms on the chain gangs who will rebuild the city at high risk to life and health.
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posted on
08/30/2005 6:21:03 PM PDT
by
dufekin
(US Senate: the only place where the majority [D] comprises fewer than the minority [R])
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