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To: Ramius

but he's not all wrong on that. all the trades just showed up at the WTC - they weren't asked, no contracts signed, the ironworkers and crane operators just showed up to assist the police and fire departments.

that new orleans area is the largest port in the country, there are no seaborne private companies who are capable of plugging a levee?


1,936 posted on 08/30/2005 6:18:40 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

Blanco - "its an untenable situation".

now there a voice of hope.


1,942 posted on 08/30/2005 6:19:41 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

I don't think it is as simple as that, or it probably would be done. Lots of people are showing up in N.O. too... but getting the people and the equipment to the places they can be used is decidedly non-trivial.

Some problems are just bigger than can be solved like they do in the movies. Nothing about this is going to happen very fast. That's just the situation.


1,958 posted on 08/30/2005 6:23:11 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: oceanview
that new orleans area is the largest port in the country, there are no seaborne private companies who are capable of plugging a levee?

Problem is, you can't get to the breach from the sea. Or from any other navigable waterway.

1,972 posted on 08/30/2005 6:24:55 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: oceanview
Plug it with what equipment? The barges that Katrina smashed and drove ashore everywhere? The ships that the companies would have sailed to Texas to avoid the storm? Plug it with what staff? The employees that evacuated when the mandatory order was given?

Imagine if all but one bridge and all the tunnels in NYC had been knocked down on 9/11. Now clog every street in Manhattan with debris and then flood most of them. Next turn off all the electricty, gas and water on the island. Have every ferryboat sunk or sailed away to Philly for safety. Finally, have thousands of people trapped all over Manhattan who need rescue and evacuation. How quickly would have large amounts of aid and workers have come?

1,988 posted on 08/30/2005 6:27:03 PM PDT by LenS
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To: oceanview
And how are the men who work for these "seaborne private companies" supposed to get their ships to the levee? You know, those ships that were sent out to sea to avoid the hurricane that just went by?

And not that Katrina didn't rearrange the Mississippi River channel, or anything. And, of course, noone knows what debris is stuck in the Delta mud. Nobody's had the chance to map the changes in the river, but those ships should come right on up the channel. Who cares if they tear up the bottoms of their ships? Why, maybe those ships would wind up smashing into the levee! That'd help!

And I'm sure the divers can't wait to jump off into that nasty water! </sarcasm>

Water makes everything more difficult, especially when all the necessary equipment is under the water. Going in without prior knowledge and proper planning is potentially worse than not going in at all.

2,417 posted on 08/30/2005 7:20:47 PM PDT by Rose in RoseBear (HHD [... "do it right" is the only way to do it ...])
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