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Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Various ^ | 30 August 2005 | Various

Posted on 08/30/2005 1:34:04 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: Tuxedo

Used to do that in Eastern Pakistan all the time, normally did in 300,000 or so.


2,401 posted on 08/30/2005 7:19:14 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (WHEN JANE FONDA STARTS HER TOUR, LET ME KNOW WHERE SHE IS)
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To: NautiNurse

I assume it was I10 and later saw the pic and noted you could see land at the end. I still wonder.


2,402 posted on 08/30/2005 7:19:14 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Shermy

You know you're in trouble when the politicians start resorting to honesty!


2,403 posted on 08/30/2005 7:19:17 PM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: Txsleuth

Somewhere Abraham Lincoln is smiling. He heard such stuff. as this.


2,404 posted on 08/30/2005 7:19:23 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: XEHRpa
Well put. Some seem to think that all we need is Bruce Willis to kamikazee an ocean liner into the dike breech to save the city

In my day, it was Chuck Norris who could stop all Iranians in their tracks : )

2,405 posted on 08/30/2005 7:19:30 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: RobFromGa

I caught that diss too--boy it ticked me off!


2,406 posted on 08/30/2005 7:19:52 PM PDT by milagro
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To: RobbyS
Uh, with all due respect, thousands of our troops have extensive police and civil affairs experience having learned it the hard way at the University of Al Anbar Province. The 101 has been there, as has the 82nd, as has 2nd Marine Division. Naturally, these units would be subordinated to sheriff's deputies, but they are not ignorant of police procedure and would act according to strict ROE.

Basically, you'll need to establish a firm hand NOW and going forward as water recedes and you establish order. However, no one has considered the probability of another Gulf tropical system paying the northern Gulf area a visit come late September. That's what really has people concerned I'll bet.

They need to get everyone save official business people out of NO asap.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

2,407 posted on 08/30/2005 7:19:54 PM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: cajungirl

I'm sitting here 15 minutes later still trying to grasp what I heard the Governor of Louisiana say to Larry King:

If that Army Corps of Engineers would just hurry up and get the levy blocked, then we could starting getting things done...


2,408 posted on 08/30/2005 7:19:56 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: Ramius

Rain runoff is not the big problem - the River will conly crest 1' higher in next 5 days.

These levee breaks and the failure to HAVE A PLAN to plug them will increase the cost 100 fold - in $ and lives.


2,409 posted on 08/30/2005 7:20:11 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: Fitzcarraldo

He's not in NO, he's in Biloxi or Gulfport.


2,410 posted on 08/30/2005 7:20:18 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: MarMema
I'm with you on this. Those people in the superdome are sitting ducks.

With one difference; ducks are designed to float.

2,411 posted on 08/30/2005 7:20:27 PM PDT by steveegg (Real torture is taking a ride with Sen Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy in a 1968 Oldsmobile off a short bridge)
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To: sassbox
I don't want to impeach Bush. Not even close. But right now many if not the majority of folks in this country are displeased with Bush. If he comes across as unconcerned about New Orleans it will turn so much public opinion against him that I really fear what the consequences will be. I hope that doesn't happen but he's on thin enough ice as it is right now.

So they're displeased. Guess they won't reelect him again. Stop panicking. He's not unconcerned...he's just not itching for a photo-op like a certain President of the past.

2,412 posted on 08/30/2005 7:20:34 PM PDT by madison10
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To: NautiNurse

Aaron Brown on CNN just reported that President Bush is returning to DC from vacation, then said, snidely, "Its good to know the White House is paying some attention."


2,413 posted on 08/30/2005 7:20:37 PM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: Shermy
Basically, 2-5 % here want to blame him because he's black.

Respectfully, that's just BS. Most of us blame him because het met with lawyers to determine whether he had the legal authority to order a mandatory evacuation. It took the president to get him off the dime.

2,414 posted on 08/30/2005 7:20:42 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: sinkspur
Blanco is armchair quarterbacking with this gratuitous shot at the airlines.

Looking for someone to place blame to deflect from her own incompetence

2,415 posted on 08/30/2005 7:20:43 PM PDT by apackof2 (In my simple way, I guess you could say I'm living in the BIG TIME)
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To: bayourant
Let me tell thats been a big topic of discussion among alot of us. We could not believe how early the airlines canceled flights. There will be an investigation of that.

Let's be realistic, though ... nobody in their right mind would be flying planes into the hurricane area, so you're left only with the planes currently on the ground at the time. What's that ... 20 or 30 planes, because NO is a destination, not a hub.

At most you're going to get a few thousand people out (and they did), and most of those are people who were at the airport to begin with. You wouldn't be able to touch the main body of people still in the city.

No, the only way to get a bunch of folks out quickly would have been by packing them onto trains, and that clearly did not happen.

2,416 posted on 08/30/2005 7:20:44 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: oceanview
And how are the men who work for these "seaborne private companies" supposed to get their ships to the levee? You know, those ships that were sent out to sea to avoid the hurricane that just went by?

And not that Katrina didn't rearrange the Mississippi River channel, or anything. And, of course, noone knows what debris is stuck in the Delta mud. Nobody's had the chance to map the changes in the river, but those ships should come right on up the channel. Who cares if they tear up the bottoms of their ships? Why, maybe those ships would wind up smashing into the levee! That'd help!

And I'm sure the divers can't wait to jump off into that nasty water! </sarcasm>

Water makes everything more difficult, especially when all the necessary equipment is under the water. Going in without prior knowledge and proper planning is potentially worse than not going in at all.

2,417 posted on 08/30/2005 7:20:47 PM PDT by Rose in RoseBear (HHD [... "do it right" is the only way to do it ...])
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To: Peach
What kind of trouble is Anderson Cooper in?

The FNC's Shep Smith, CNN's Anderson Cooper and NBC's Brain Williams are in the NO ........

They are stuck in French Quarter or the Superdome.

They have no way out.

Shep Smith looked scared to death during 4:00 pdt report.

2,418 posted on 08/30/2005 7:20:52 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: RobFromGa
Yeap, finally paying attention... to the point he encouraged them to evacuate NO. Whatever MSM!!!!!
2,419 posted on 08/30/2005 7:20:55 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Strategerist

Nope, all problems should be solved in 23 minutes (the length of a sitcom). Any more time than that, and someone should be fired.


*g*


2,420 posted on 08/30/2005 7:21:20 PM PDT by LenS
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