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Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Various ^ | 30 August 2005 | Various

Posted on 08/30/2005 1:34:04 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: don-o
Does anyone have current info on the Martial Law declaration that was reported this morning?

Apparently Shep Smith exaggerated/misreported. Imagine!

1,141 posted on 08/30/2005 4:28:59 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg.)
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To: MikeinIraq
I hand-jammed it....

Not touching that one. :-) Thanks for your service, Mike.

1,142 posted on 08/30/2005 4:29:09 PM PDT by RobFromGa (Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran-- what are we waiting for?)
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To: buccaneer81

Dang, Laz left us? (His profile page says he has...boohoo!)


1,143 posted on 08/30/2005 4:29:10 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: don-o

I don't have any more info. I pray they hurry.


1,144 posted on 08/30/2005 4:29:12 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: cajungirl

Is the goat ok too?


1,145 posted on 08/30/2005 4:29:14 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: LibWrangler

It's a shame that, even with martial law in force, we don't shoot looters. That is the standard treatment the world over and is pretty effective.


1,146 posted on 08/30/2005 4:29:14 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: Jeff Head

http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_khou&props=livenoad


Crank it up...they're talking about the looters, etc.


1,147 posted on 08/30/2005 4:29:27 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: CFC__VRWC
many of the comments made today by the media and the Dim politicians

They aren't real Americans

1,148 posted on 08/30/2005 4:29:52 PM PDT by RobFromGa (Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran-- what are we waiting for?)
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To: NautiNurse
Having caught back up on the threads here are some stray thoughts:

RE Confederate Museum. I visited it last winter. IIRC it is on relatively high ground, probably higher than the nearby D Day museum, and the displayed exhibits are all in one rome on the upper floor of the building. There was a lower level, closed to the public where they may have more stuff in storage but at least most of their stuff (which was interesting) should stay dry.

One comment in a prior thread claimed the D Day museum was near Jackson square. That's not at all true. Jackson square is on east end of the French Quarter (which starts east of Canal street.) D Day museum is west of the warehouse district, probably further west of Canal street than Jackson Square is east of it.

The big NO casino is at southern end of Canal Street, near the Mississippi levee.

IF the Corps can plug the canal and/or levee breaches and stop the ongoing flooding with airdropped sandbags somebody needs to note when they started dropping them. I've yet to see or hear any reports that they have started. Reports of the breaches were first reported early this AM. I know I posted on them before 2AM and they'd been reported, at least as rumors, well before then. How many hours did it take to start the attempted plugging? Breeches were a predictable risk, by far the most severe risk whenever a hurricane threatens NO. In the 1993 upper Mississippi river flood nearly every levee between Davenport and St. Louis was breached, but some took days to go. Those in charge of the levees, which a Corps officer was quick to stress just after the storm passed was NOT the Corps, but rather local officials, should have been monitoring the levees as the highest priority. There should have been plans to reinforce any threatened levees at the first sign of trouble that took into account the likelihood of trouble getting around town. They should have been ready to try air drops and started them as soon as the breech was localized. Delaying in plugging the leak will greatly delay restoring the city to normal. I'm afraid NO's emergency "plans" had no breeches! If they did identify and evaluate the breech promptly and determined there was not chance of fixing it before the water reached equilibrium than they should have announced the inevitable worse right then and started evacuating everyone.

1,149 posted on 08/30/2005 4:30:05 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: July 4th
The pipelines that come up from the Gulf just aren't pumping.

CNN had a short piece on teh "Colonial" pipeline that runs from Houston to the east coast. It carries refined products, and it is also out of commission.

From the report, I surmise that a pumping station, or a few of them, have no power. The report was that power was expected to be restored in about a week.

Some "serious" ripples are yet to be felt. I put scare quoutes around "serious" because nothing is a serious as loss of life, and shortage of fuel and economic hits are pale in comparison to the loss of life.

1,150 posted on 08/30/2005 4:30:14 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: cajungirl; All

LOL! Excellent.

Signing off to go catch my train. Continued prayers to all still impacted by the storm...


1,151 posted on 08/30/2005 4:30:19 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: cajungirl

Whew! I sure am glad that you cleared that up. I came in on this late and from reading a few posts, I thought you had lost it and was claiming that you had a sister who was a llama. LOL


1,152 posted on 08/30/2005 4:30:19 PM PDT by Carolinamom (Life is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: jeffers

But the river is not up to the levee is it?

I don't know anything anymore other than NO seems lost to me.


1,153 posted on 08/30/2005 4:30:20 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Fraxinus

http://www.ussalabama.com/ Looks to be a
museum now......


1,154 posted on 08/30/2005 4:30:29 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Political Junkie Too

As for decommissioned ships, the typical procedure once they get beyond a certain age is to strip certain things from it and secure all the openings. In essence, nothing Really Big has been decommissioned in the past year, so it would not be a viable option to try to use them for people storage (CV 64 Constellation is already far advanced in the post-decommissioning process).

For the long term, since CV 67 Kennedy was on the path to decommissioning and not in Navy's main game plans any more, that might be used as a backup, but IMO it would be more likely that once the military ships find a safe channel for passage, the Comfort might move ((as an MSC ship, it uses much less crew)).


1,155 posted on 08/30/2005 4:30:40 PM PDT by libtoken
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To: RobFromGa

----And I think even most liberal Northeasterners feel that we are all in this together.----

I doubt that. Assigning normal standards of human decency to liberals will usually get you burned. I have little doubt that your average Massachusetts leftist thinks that his house is heated by the Oil Fairy and that nobody has any good reason for living on the Gulf Coast.

-Dan

1,157 posted on 08/30/2005 4:30:57 PM PDT by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: buccaneer81; Lazamataz
What happened to Laz?

He earned himself yet another time out yesterday. You back old bean?

1,158 posted on 08/30/2005 4:31:03 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: cajungirl

It has a good beat, but I can't dance to it.


1,159 posted on 08/30/2005 4:31:04 PM PDT by RobFromGa (Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran-- what are we waiting for?)
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To: All

From the Hurricane City live stream: some reports (not confirmed at this point) of rioting at prison in/near New Orleans.


1,160 posted on 08/30/2005 4:31:39 PM PDT by KJC1
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