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Hurricane Peels Holes in Superdome Roof
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/29/05 | Mary Foster - AP

Posted on 08/29/2005 7:23:46 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: Joe Boucher

Actually, one of the better uses for government is helping people through disasters like these. Especially when that same government has, in all likelihood, siphoned off monies that were originally designated for emergency preparedness, such as levee work, pumps, and shelters. I don't know if that's the case for this hurricane, but I lived in New Orleans off and on for a little over 15 years, and saw this kind of graft first hand.

Another thing I'm hearing--hoping someone can verify or shoot down--is that the city shut down the buses. A lot of people in New Orleans don't have cars, not just the poor, but also students at the universities (where parking is almost an impossibility) and wealthier folks in areas like the French Quarter (again, the parking thing).

It's not that people expect "the government" to take care of them--it's that they never thought any of this would happen. That lack of thinking, I might add, extends all the way to the office of the governor of the state.


21 posted on 08/29/2005 8:33:05 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Chi-townChief
and you have to wonder if anyone brought a football into the Dome with them to pass the time.

Yep, and they are currently beating the Saints 21-3.

22 posted on 08/29/2005 8:34:54 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Tallguy

Sometimes your only choices are between the "bad" choice and the "even worse" choice. The Superdome was the "bad" choice.


23 posted on 08/29/2005 8:37:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: NormsRevenge

Prayers for all the displaced people in the area of the storm.


24 posted on 08/29/2005 8:41:58 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: dfwgator; All

Debris from a fallen building covers several buildings in downtown New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. (AP Photo/Dave Martin)


25 posted on 08/29/2005 8:48:24 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: dfwgator
and you have to wonder if anyone brought a football into the Dome with them to pass the time.

Yep, and they are currently beating the Saints 21-3.

LOL!

26 posted on 08/29/2005 9:51:57 AM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
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To: NormsRevenge

And somewhere the Saints owner is doing the happy dance, he's been trying to screw the city out of a new stadium for a long time. Hope everybody is OK.


27 posted on 08/29/2005 9:58:29 AM PDT by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: MizSterious

wow, graft and corruption in Lousiana? Who'd a thunk it?

Last year I went through two hurricanes in 10 days. The govt. didn't do nearly what was accomplished by churches and local charities.
The response form electrical companies from as far away as montana and canada and everywhere in between was fantastic. Hell a french canadian electric cooperative got my electricity back after 8 days the first time and 13 days after the second we finally got electricity.
Seems like you say Florida Power and light had cut back on its repair devision to save a billion dollars then voted themselves on the board of directors a large bonus in the millions each.


28 posted on 08/29/2005 10:17:07 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: discostu

Yep, Tom Benson is probably thrilled. The Saints next home game is in 3 weeks, but I'm not going to hold my breath expecting the roof to be fixed by then. The next question is, where are they going to play until it's fixed?


29 posted on 08/29/2005 10:34:52 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Unleash Karl Rove!!!)
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To: Polyxene
You forgot cattle-generated methane!

Ah yes, the terror of Bovine Generated Hydrocarbon Emissions (BGHE). The planet is doomed by ruminants, doomed I tell you! Ruminants, and those double-grande burrito combo plates at Taco Bell; a deadly duo!

30 posted on 08/29/2005 10:34:56 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: 6SJ7

"Ruminants, and those double-grande burrito combo plates at Taco Bell; a deadly duo!"

LOL!! Lest we forget -- there are ruminant parts in those double-double-grande-grande BURP-ritos!!! Beans AND ruminants -- double-trouble!!


31 posted on 08/29/2005 10:38:48 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)

A lot of that will probably depend on the structural soundness, as long as they don't have to worry about chunks falling off I say play in the stadium, open air teams are better than dome teams anyway could be good for the Saints. Short of that find a nearish college to borrow.


32 posted on 08/29/2005 10:47:46 AM PDT by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: discostu

Closest is Tiger Stadium in Baton Rouge, but they're renovating the stadium(it's behind schedule), so they may not want crowds on a Sunday when the crews can be working, plus it could turn into a p*ssing match between the Saints and LSU. The only other stadium in the state that's really large enough for an NFL game is in Shreveport, which is about a 5 hour drive from New Orleans. I already have a good idea where they will go if the Superdome isn't ready for a game, but it's out of state, and another shot by Benson across the Louisiana governor's bow...


33 posted on 08/29/2005 11:11:08 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Unleash Karl Rove!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

A vehicle makes its way through a flooded street from the overflowing Grande Lagoon in Pensacola, Fla., as Hurricane Katrina passes through the area, Monday, Aug. 29, 2005. (AP Photo/Peter Cosgrove)


34 posted on 08/29/2005 11:20:20 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: NormsRevenge

An Interstate-10 sign is nearly underwater near downtown New Orleans on Monday, Aug. 29, 2005. Hurricane Katrina battered the coast with strong winds and heavy rains when it came ashore near Grand Isle. (AP Photo/Bill Haber)


35 posted on 08/29/2005 11:27:05 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
The next question is, where are they going to play until it's fixed?

Prolly at LSU.

36 posted on 08/29/2005 11:30:35 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
The Saints next home game is in 3 weeks, but I'm not going to hold my breath expecting the roof to be fixed by then. The next question is, where are they going to play until it's fixed?

I would guess that it would have to be at a stadium that is:

A. Large enough to handle the Saints season ticket holders, and

B. Somewhere within a reasonable driving distance.

I seem to recall the Saints playing at Tulane, but I'm sure that this was pre-SuperDome. Probably way too small to accommodate the Saints ticketholders.

37 posted on 08/29/2005 2:04:50 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: NormsRevenge; Extremely Extreme Extremist; Tallguy; discostu; ABG(anybody but Gore); dfwgator; ...
Saints could go marching out after hurricane rips hole in stadium roof
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American football's New Orleans Saints could be marching out of the storm-damaged Superdome, seen here, and moving next week's workouts for their season opener to Texas because of damage here from Hurricane Katrina(AFP/Getty Images/Chris Graythen)

NEW ORLEANS, United States (AFP) - American football's New Orleans Saints could be marching out of the storm-damaged Superdome and moving next week's workouts for their season opener to Texas because of damage here from Hurricane Katrina.

Two holes were punched in the roof of the 80,000-seat domed stadium Monday as people took refuge inside, trying to escape the hurricane's fury. Flooding and wind damage was expected to take a heavy toll on the surrounding area.

The National Football League club flew Sunday to San Jose, California, to escape the storm's wrath. The Saints play their final pre-season exhibition game at Oakland on Thursday before returning here to assess the damage.

"Our plans for flying home will be determined once we see what kind of condition the city is in," Saints spokesman Greg Nensel said. "We are all hoping for the best for the city and the people that remain."

Club officials were looking at conducting next week's workouts, ahead of their September 11 opener at Carolina, in Houston or Dallas, Texas, or possibly at Louisiana college facilities in Shreveport or Lafayette, depending on the damage in New Orleans.

The Saints' home opener against the New York Giants on September 18 will be played, but whether the game is played in the Superdome will depend upon the recovery of the city and stadium over the next three weeks.

Relocating the game to another city would not be unprecedented. On October 27, 2003, the San Diego Chargers lost 26-10 to Miami in Tempe, Arizona, while their home stadium was being used as a shelter for wildfire evacuation victims.

The Saints were forced to relocate workouts to San Antonio, Texas, for a week last season when Hurricane Ivan struck the area, although they were able to host San Francisco that week as scheduled.

Also suffering roof damage was the 18,500-seat New Orleans Arena, the 112 million-dollar home of the National Basketball Association's New Orleans Hornets.

The arena, completed in 1999, is not set to host another Hornets game until an October 20 pre-season exhibition against reigning NBA champion San Antonio.

The Hornets' first regular season home game is not scheduled until November 4 against Sacramento.

Louisiana State University's American football team called off Monday's practice but still planned to open the season by playing host to North Texas State on Saturday at Baton Rouge, northwest of New Orleans.

Tulane University's American football squad moved to Jackson, Mississippi. The Green Wave continued preparations there for Sunday's opener at Southern Mississippi in Hattiesburg.

Southern Mississippi's Golden Eagles practiced Sunday and took Monday off to weather the storm, planning to resume workouts Tuesday.

"We hope we can play this game," Eagles coach Jeff Bower said. "I hope that the weather won't be as bad as people are saying it could be. We're going to hunker down and be safe for a while."

The New Orleans Zephyrs, the top development team for Major League Baseball's Washington Nationals, called off their final two home games against Iowa due to the hurricane.

38 posted on 08/29/2005 2:57:09 PM PDT by Libloather (Why are Democrats buried in nine foot graves? Deep down, they're good people...)
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The roof of the Louisiana Superdome is shredded by strong winds of Hurricane Katrina as it batters the Crescent City on Monday, Aug. 29, 2005. (AP Photo/Bill Haber)


An overturned car sits in front of the Superdome in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Katrina pounded a swath of the US Gulf coast with rare fury, causing widespread damage in New Orleans but failing to deliver a feared catastrophic blow to the low-lying port city.(AFP/Getty Images/Mario Tama)


Tyrell Willis fights his way through strong winds as he tries to make his way to the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans as Hurricane Katrina batters the Crescent City on Monday, Aug. 29, 2005. Willis's home was damaged by the storm, forcing him to walk to the Superdome where officials are providing shelter from the hurricane. (AP Photo/Bill Haber)


Arnold James tries to keep his feet as a strong gust nearly blows him over as he tries to make his way on foot to the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans on Monday, Aug. 29, 2005. The roof on James's home blew off, forcing him to seek shelter at the Superdome. (AP Photo/Dave Martin)


New Orleans residents sit in the Superdome which is being used as an emergency shelter. Hurricane Katrina has claimed its first victims in Louisiana as it neared landfall, dumping torrential rain on the southern state and other parts of the US Gulf of Mexico coast and threatening death and massive destruction.(AFP/Getty Images/Mario Tama)

39 posted on 08/29/2005 3:07:07 PM PDT by Libloather (Why are Democrats buried in nine foot graves? Deep down, they're good people...)
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To: Tallguy

Tulane Stadium is long gone. They tore it down in the late 70's-early 80's. Tulane plays a game or two each season at Tad Gormley in City Park, but it's really a high school stadium.

Tiger Stadium in Baton Rouge can handle the crowd and the TV cameras, but with the renovations, and the fact that both teams fight for the affections of the state, it's no guarantee that the Saints would be welcomed.

That leaves Independance Stadium in Shreveport, which would probably be thrilled to have the Saints play a game or two up there, but it's a longstanding joke that Shreveport is a suburb of Dallas, and it's clear across the state from most of the Saints' ticket holders.

My guess is that if the Dome isn't repaired in time, they'll make a token effort at moving to Baton Rouge, then move the home games to San Antonio. Benson would move the team there in a heartbeat if the local pols yield to his annual blackmail, and this is a golden opportunity to up the ante...


40 posted on 08/29/2005 5:28:49 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Unleash Karl Rove!!!)
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