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To: LexBaird
You must be joking. There is a reason "patrician class" has meaning

Of course it had meaning in part because of constant struggle between patrician and plebeian leaders. And plebeians often got upper hand. But the successful plebeians were usually affluent so it would support your position.

Now, do you think that XX century European model where your income is not so important in getting to the political office (you get state election funds and after victory the salary sufficient to make living) is worse or not better?

121 posted on 08/31/2005 10:12:54 AM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: A. Pole
How many plebians became Senators, Procurators, Governors, or, later Emperors?

Now, do you think that XX century European model where your income is not so important in getting to the political office (you get state election funds and after victory the salary sufficient to make living) is worse or not better?

I don't live under the European system, but my gut impression is that it is more efficient at producing politicians, functionaries and bureaucrats than at producing statesmen. Managers that "run the program", rather than leaders who innovate. Not that we produce many either...

122 posted on 08/31/2005 10:40:01 AM PDT by LexBaird (tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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