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U.S. Mint Confiscates 10 Rare Gold Coins
Yahoo | AP ^ | 8/25/05

Posted on 08/25/2005 9:52:28 AM PDT by LibWhacker

PHILADELPHIA - The U.S. Mint seized 10 Double Eagle gold coins from 1933, among the rarest and most valuable coins in the world, that were turned in by a jeweler seeking to determine their authenticity.

Joan S. Langbord plans a federal court lawsuit to try to recover them, her attorney, Barry H. Berke, said Wednesday. Langbord found the coins among the possessions of her father, longtime Philadelphia jeweler Israel Switt, who had acknowledged having sold some of the coins decades ago. She now operates her father's business.

David Lebryk, acting director of the Mint, had announced in a news release that the rare coins, which were never put in circulation, had been taken from the Mint "in an unlawful manner" in the mid-1930's and now were "recovered."

The coins, which are so rare that their value is almost beyond calculation, are public property, he said.

But Berke said Mint officials couldn't prove the coins had been stolen, or were subject to forfeiture.

In 2002, Sotheby's and numismatic firm Stack's auctioned off a 1933 Double Eagle coin for $7.59 million, the highest price ever paid for a coin. That Double Eagle, which is believed to have been part of a collection belonging to King Farouk of Egypt, surfaced when a coin dealer tried selling it to undercover Secret Service agents.

After a legal battle, the dealer was permitted to sell the coin at auction on the condition he split the proceeds with the Mint.

In its statement, the Mint said officials were still deciding what they would do with the seized coins, which are being held at Fort Knox. They said they had no plans to auction them but would consider saving "these historical artifacts" for public exhibits. Other double eagle coins seized in the past were melted down.

Double Eagles were first minted in 1850 with a face value of $20. The 445,500 coins minted in 1933 were never put into circulation because the nation went off the gold standard. All the coins were ordered melted down, but a handful are believed to have survived, including two handed over to the Smithsonian Institution.

Langbord declined to discuss how the coins might have come into the possession of her father, who operated an antiques and jewelry shop for 70 years and died in 1990 at 95.

The Mint contends Switt obtained a cache of the gold coins from his connections at the Mint just before they were to be reduced to bullion in 1937.

Switt admitted in 1944 that he had sold nine Double Eagle coins, but he was not charged in connection with those transactions, according to the Mint.

The family attorney said the coins were found recently, and Langbord and her son, Roy, notified the Mint of the discovery in September. Mint officials asked to authenticate the coins, then confiscated them after doing so, Berke said.

He contended Langbord and her son never relinquished their right to the coins.


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KEYWORDS: armedrobbers; coins; confiscates; donutwatch; double; doubleeagle; eagle; gold; govwatch; jackbootedthugs; mint; mint2jip; usmint
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To: Ichneumon
>>See my previous post. The difference is that the Mint was going to destroy the coins anyway. That's their legal right, of course, but it does change the situation somewhat. The "thieves" in the case of the coins were in effect rescuing them from the trash can, not taking something that the Mint intended to keep and use (in which case theft of the item would deprive the Mint of the item's utility).

>So it's perfectaly acceptable for an employee of the Bureau of Engraving and Printing to take stacks of $100 bills that failed their final quality inspection and are due to be shredded? That's not theft?

Hello. Anyone home? No answer from you on this.

201 posted on 08/26/2005 4:45:51 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
So it's perfectaly acceptable for an employee of the Bureau of Engraving and Printing to take stacks of $100 bills that failed their final quality inspection and are due to be shredded? That's not theft?

On the other hand, when a President orders the confiscation of real property, gold, and then devalues the paper dollar in return, that is not theft? Where was the bigger crime here?

202 posted on 08/26/2005 4:59:27 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
On the other hand, when a President orders the confiscation of real property, gold, and then devalues the paper dollar in return, that is not theft? Where was the bigger crime here?

So your solution to that is for US Mint and Bureau of Engraving and Printing employees to steal coins and banknotes from where they work? It's OK as long as you "take if from the man" I guess. I recall a lot of unwashed hippies saying the same thing back in the 60s.

203 posted on 08/26/2005 5:09:59 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
So your solution to that is for US Mint and Bureau of Engraving and Printing employees to steal coins and banknotes from where they work? It's OK as long as you "take if from the man" I guess. I recall a lot of unwashed hippies saying the same thing back in the 60s.

Nope, I didn't say that at all so don't put words in my mouth. To counter what you are saying though, do you think it is okay for the government to confiscate property of greater value and issue notes for it for less value? Is that not theft also?

204 posted on 08/26/2005 5:16:33 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
Is that not theft also?

Not by the laws currently on the books. Change the laws if you don't like them as they are.

205 posted on 08/26/2005 5:23:00 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
Not by the laws currently on the books. Change the laws if you don't like them as they are.

Let's just say you are right about the laws. Is it right for the government to steal and the peons can't?

206 posted on 08/26/2005 5:51:26 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
Is it right for the government to steal and the peons can't?

It's not right for anyone to steal. You can't justify the peons theft by claiming that the government does it, so therefore it's OK either. Two wrongs don't make a right.

207 posted on 08/26/2005 5:56:45 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
It's not right for anyone to steal. You can't justify the peons theft by claiming that the government does it, so therefore it's OK either. Two wrongs don't make a right.

That is correct. Now, do the laws make it right for government to steal in your opinion? My problem in this case is that I have little sympathy for a massive thief who got ripped off a little and then uses the law to cash in off the peon years latter.

208 posted on 08/26/2005 6:23:05 PM PDT by bjs1779
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To: houeto; B4Ranch

#112


209 posted on 08/27/2005 10:34:37 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: LibWhacker

If Treasury records truly prove that the Treasury never made the coins publicly available, then the Treasury should get them back.


210 posted on 08/30/2005 1:09:41 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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