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To: lewislynn
To put it politely, garbage.

You may now come to Florida and tell 100% of all the independent contractors that they are providing a "service" and are required to pay state sales tax.

Absolutely nothing that you wrote qualifies any of these independent contractors to pay a service or sales tax. Zero.

Sorry, the Florida State Revenue Department does not agree with you, nor does the Fl State Supreme Court.

I suppose you also believe that building contractors, an ultimate independent contractor by legal definition, are subject to sales tax. Nope.

What I'm saying here, is that sales or service tax is not dependent on a colloquial definition of "service." and while you may think that you are playing by some IRS "rule," that concerns who pays certain Federal income taxes, that has ZERO bearing here.

The Federal government or the IRS do not have anything to do with a "sales tax," simply because there is none.

This post has to do with the implications of replacing the Federal income tax with a Federal flat value added tax, and everything that you posted has to do with a system that would be scrapped.


Not sales tax. Period.
250 posted on 08/25/2005 12:51:01 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952
The subject matter is the proposed federal fairtax not Florida sales tax.

Get it?

251 posted on 08/25/2005 12:57:05 PM PDT by lewislynn (Status quo today is the result of eliminating the previous status quo. Be careful what you wish for)
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To: bill1952

This post has to do with the implications of replacing the Federal income tax with a Federal flat value added tax, and everything that you posted has to do with a system that would be scrapped.

This thread has to do with a National RETAIL Sales Tax, replacing all federal income and payroll taxes (e.g. SS/Medicare).

No VAT is involved as the retail tax is collected only from sales of goods and services for final consumption, and is not collected on purchases for business use as VATs are collected.

The NRST implemented by the FairTax legislation would be collected from the consumer, not from intermediate sales of good or services used for business purpose.

255 posted on 08/25/2005 1:29:08 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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I Don't understand the argument here.....

As I understand the Fair Tax Bill employers will no longer "deduct "my" taxes for me.....so instead of receiving $70.00 out of a $100.00 paycheck I will receive $100.00.

So....before, the most i had to spend was $70.00 for that week

Now I have a hundred....the item I bought last week for $70.00 left me $0.00.....

This week i have a $100.00 in my pocket to spend......I go and buy the same $70.00 item PLUS 23% NRST and I spend....$86.10 w/tax.....or $90.91 w/tax if it is an inclusive tax (a little confused on how the tax is figured) (as a sidde note: if i go out and buy an upgraded item on credit for 100.00 plus NRST i am an idiot...but that's another discussion.....there is a learning curve involved under the NRST......)

Either way i have $9.09 - $13.90 left over in my pocket....which i can go spend on something else...."living paycheck to paycheck here....LOL"

Regardless....i am better off....i have more money to save....spend....burn....whatever.....and this does not take into accout..... POSSIBLE LOWER RETAIL PRICES!!!!!

264 posted on 08/25/2005 1:53:22 PM PDT by is_is (VPD of Lcpl Daniel - USMC - Iraq)
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To: bill1952
This post has to do with the implications of replacing the Federal income tax with a Federal flat value added tax, and everything that you posted has to do with a system that would be scrapped.

Not sales tax. Period.

Not a VAT either.

Don't take my word for it...Here's from the Fairtax bill (HR25)

`SEC. 101. IMPOSITION OF SALES TAX.

`(a) In General- There is hereby imposed a tax on the use or consumption in the United States of taxable property or services.
`(b) Rate-
`(1) FOR 2007- In the calendar year 2007, the rate of tax is 23 percent of the gross payments for the taxable property or service.

306 posted on 08/25/2005 4:31:34 PM PDT by lewislynn (Status quo today is the result of eliminating the previous status quo. Be careful what you wish for)
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