[Bigun]

When you state "Without the employer seeing those savings, the employer can not significantly reduce his prices." you are in fact willfully lying!

Is that plain enough for you?

The costs imposed, outside the taxes themselves, are quite significant and would allow very significant price reductions.

[Bigun]

225 should read

"The costs imposed, outside the taxes themselves, are quite significant and their removal would allow very significant price reductions.

[KarlInOhio]

The costs imposed, outside the taxes themselves, are quite significant and would allow very significant price reductions.

http://fairtaxvolunteer.org/pdf/BROCHURE.pdf

Page 11 states that $225 billion is spent complying with the income tax. That's about 2% of the GDP. Even if (big if) that is all for business and doesn't include individuals tax calculation expenses or imputed value for the time individuals spend on IRS forms, it is still only a small part of the 23% embedded taxes assumed by FairTax.org.

Very significant price reductions? No, maybe a couple of percent.

[Always Right]

When you state "Without the employer seeing those savings, the employer can not significantly reduce his prices." you are in fact willfully lying!

No, that is a fact. I know in my business, there is no way I am going to save more than a few percent of gross. Unless I can ring out all the employment taxes of my workers, my subcontractors and their workers, and my suppliers and their workers, the savings of the fair tax is insignficant. I know my books. You can call me a liar all you want, but you guys are the ones with your hands caught in the cookie jar and have in fact been grossly misrepresenting facts for over 6 years.