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To: Carry_Okie
When an Imam calls for jihad, you are telling me that "ordinary Muslims" have no obligation to comply?

That's what I'm saying. Are you claiming that every Muslim in the world is a jihadi willing to strap on a bomb-belt and blow up a kindergarden? If you do, there's no reason to continue this conversation as I can't penetrate that level of tin-foil hattery.

If you are going there, there is virtually no limit to the number of Surahs mandating every Muslim to action.

Just like the non-existant ones that people here claim allow a Muslim to lie in court with impunity?

[A lie under oath for a Muslim] To be expiated by simple fasting.

That's more than the simple Catholic expedient of confessing to your priest and saying a "Hail Mary" or two. What religious punishment is there for Protestants who lie under oath?

I don't think you can safely conclude that [Muslims would feel an additional compunction not to lie if they have to swear on a Koran].

Then you are arguing for eliminating Bibles from the courtroom too, if neither the Bible nor the Koran adds any additional coercion on someone to tell the truth. Is that your real goal?

132 posted on 08/25/2005 1:21:51 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
That's what I'm saying. Are you claiming that every Muslim in the world is a jihadi willing to strap on a bomb-belt and blow up a kindergarden?

In the WOT, not every American is in Iraq. As in any war, there are obviously more than just foot soldiers.

Once a fatwa declaring jihad has been promulgated, the average Muslim would be more willing to raise more kids willing to strap on a bomb-belt and blow up a kindergarden. They would be more willing to shelter those willing to strap on a bomb-belt and blow up a kindergarden. They would be more willing to allow their contributions to finance bomb-belts to blow up kindergardens.

That they aren't blowing themselves up doesn't mean they aren't jihadis any more than the Imam's who aren't blowing themselves up either. Even if they don't personally approve of blowing up kindergardens, Muslims have shown a remarkable reluctance to do anything to stop it. The reason is because of what is in the Koran.

If you do, there's no reason to continue this conversation as I can't penetrate that level of tin-foil hattery.

There's no need to do that. It's done already.

136 posted on 08/25/2005 1:34:32 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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