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To: lemura
A cop has no right to enforce noise restrictions where none exist at a public place of business.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Have you ever heard of "Drunk and Disorderly," or its cousin "Prejudicial to good order and discipline?"

64 posted on 08/21/2005 6:37:08 AM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Cowboy the f*ck up!" LT Waters in "Tears of the Sun")
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To: CholeraJoe

OK, so a citizens arrest or a statement of the actual statute might be in order. CJ didn't do any of that. He simply intimidated in a plausibly deniable manner.


69 posted on 08/21/2005 6:40:15 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: CholeraJoe

And BTW, Joe, I used to work the graveyard shift at a diner during my yut, and it was the large groups of loud obnoxious drunk people in the wee hours of the morning who not only entertained us, but ordered more food than most people could eat and left big tips for poor starving college kids like me. The people we despised the most were single, sexually frustrated, grumpy men who bitched about everything and anything and then left a $.25 tip on a $7.00 check.


83 posted on 08/21/2005 6:45:38 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: CholeraJoe

Being loud is not being disorderly. Are they disrupting the business's ability to do business? Puking at the front door...confronting potential patrons...etc. They were paying customers, at a table, being too loud, for you sensibilities.

If you were to use your concealed weapon, after they claimed it was obviously revealed to intimidate (from their viewpoint), for a minor disagreement, you will lose in court.

You will be charged for a criminal offense. You will be sued for everything you will ever have the possibility of owning and your life will never be a happy one from that day forward.

This has a point, the saying "An armed society is a polite one." is moderated by "It is better to be judged by twelve than carried by six." The latter intones the gravity of responsibility for concealed carry.

Guns are for life and death decisions. I could possibly extend that to some vital property issues.

I would NEVER extend it to being loud. If you don't like the establishment's ambiance, find a better one. Let the owner know.

DK


143 posted on 08/21/2005 7:08:45 AM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: CholeraJoe

"Have you ever heard of "Drunk and Disorderly," or its cousin "Prejudicial to good order and discipline?""

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

As an officer, you're not doing a d&*n thing without a complaint from the property owner in a restaurant where the clientele are all sitting and eating.

Your post also includes the mens rea for assault.


199 posted on 08/21/2005 7:41:21 AM PDT by rwilson99 (South Park (R)
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