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To: NuclearDruid

the part about "helping your fellow man" ??? yeah right - who gives a s**t anymore, right?

That is what I hear on this board - The man should NOT have been charged with a crime for not helping the police, but on the same token, he SHOULD have helped to his utmost ability.

This is the least/left coast big city liberal mentality - gimme gimme gimme - but I won't lift a finger to help.

all you, please never move into my neighborhood.


11 posted on 08/19/2005 6:22:02 AM PDT by hombre_sincero
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To: hombre_sincero

big difference. i'll jump to help a neighbor, but if i see a cop arresting someone, i'm gonna stay back in case the cop turns out to be a jackboot thug and shoots ME thinking i'm attacking him.


18 posted on 08/19/2005 6:28:34 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: hombre_sincero

I'm with you. I find this reaction astounding.


23 posted on 08/19/2005 6:31:05 AM PDT by WillMalven (It don't matter where you are when "the bomb" goes off, as long as you can say "What was that?")
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To: hombre_sincero
the part about "helping your fellow man" ??? yeah right - who gives a s**t anymore, right?

Voluntary "helping of your fellow man" is alot different than what is being described in this article hombre.

That is what I hear on this board - The man should NOT have been charged with a crime for not helping the police, but on the same token, he SHOULD have helped to his utmost ability.

You go right ahead bring your knife to a gunfight hombre, oh yeah...there is that issue about this law being un-Constitutional...but what the hell? Hombres like you have been pissing on the Constitution for a while now.

This is the least/left coast big city liberal mentality - gimme gimme gimme - but I won't lift a finger to help.

Thous dost complanth too much...especially for a NEWBIE, hombre.

all you, please never move into my neighborhood.

Don't worry hombre....most of us will never be moving to CUBA anytime soon.

Viva Castro eh? Hows communism working for yeah?

25 posted on 08/19/2005 6:32:04 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (The function of socialism is to raise suffering to a higher level.)
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To: hombre_sincero

and if you get injured by the perp bitten/blood/maimed whos is going to pay for your damages.


30 posted on 08/19/2005 6:50:53 AM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: hombre_sincero

Assuming he assists the officer, and is injured in some form or fashion, how much responsiblity will the city and police department assume in paying his medical bills, his lost income, etc?


32 posted on 08/19/2005 6:53:27 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob ("Nac Mac Feegle! The Wee Free Men! Nae king! Nae quin! Nae laird! We willna be fooled again!")
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To: hombre_sincero
"The man should NOT have been charged with a crime for not helping the police, but on the same token, he SHOULD have helped to his utmost ability."

Did you read the article? He said that not only did the cop never ask for help but that it appeared to him that the cop never needed help, that he had the situation well under control.

Are you telling us that you would have jumped in to subdue a criminal under those circumstances? What if the cop had charged you with interfering with a law enforcement officer, or worse, with assault on the prisoner?

Tell you what, if they pass a law that police officers must help me do my job whenever I call them for assistance, then I will gladly help them do theirs when they need help. Until then, forget it.
47 posted on 08/19/2005 7:32:15 AM PDT by monday
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To: hombre_sincero
That is what I hear on this board - The man should NOT have been charged with a crime for not helping the police, but on the same token, he SHOULD have helped to his utmost ability.

Really? Why?

See, the LEO's are "trained" to handle these situations (isn't that what they say?)...and citizens are denied their lawful rights under the 2nd Ammendment under the fig-leaf that they are not "trained or safe" enough to posess a weapon for self-defense.

Couple that with the Black Robed Nazgul Supremes ruling that says that citizens are NOT GUARANTEED PROTECTION from the police....and then remember the poor IL.(Chicago?) woman who called 9/11 because she was being MURDERED by a man she had a restraining order on, and the cops STOPPED AT A DRIVE-THRU before responding (they took 30 minutes if I remember correctly)...now we have Kelo decision, and this crap where ILLEGALS got to sue the guy they were trespassing against, and they were GIVEN HIS RANCH!

Nope...if I am a serf...I will NOT risk my life...MY PROPERTY...and LAWSUITS that would bankrupt me and take everything away from my family.. for ANY LEO/Politician/Judge until we are returned our RIGHTS as citizens! I will do EVERYTHING to protect me and mine though...B.I.T.S. is coming.

Judge/Lawyer/Politicain...Rope...Tree*!

(*some assembly required)

50 posted on 08/19/2005 7:51:59 AM PDT by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: hombre_sincero
I agree with you for the most part. The man should not have been arrested for helping the cop, but he probably should have rendered assistance.

OTOH, someone earlier in the thread mentioned the fact that someone rendering aid would not be covered by the sweeping indemnity that the state has granted its agents. He might be shielded by "Good Samaritan" laws, but knowing the state of todays legal system, I wouldn't bet on it.

Even if he is shielded by Good Samaritan laws, he might be able to beat the rap, but noone can beat the system. The government wouldn't foot the bill for his defense, and such things can be extraordinarily costly.

Had it been be, I'd have helped out, but upon reflecting further upon the issue, I'd have to say that it wouldn't be a smart move.

65 posted on 08/19/2005 9:57:49 AM PDT by zeugma (Muslims are varelse...)
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To: hombre_sincero

Somehow it has become instilled in too many people that the individual owes an inherent debt to the state; do you remember when you arrived at this conclusion?


79 posted on 08/19/2005 12:29:55 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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