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To: BMCDA
Now is the death of these people the father's fault (who could have made some more changes to his son's design) or is it the fault of the son?

The answer is obvious. If the father controlled the kids destiny by construction, the father is at fault. Next.

673 posted on 08/19/2005 3:18:05 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
The answer is obvious. If the father controlled the kids destiny by construction, the father is at fault. Next.

Yeay, pretty obvious, n'est-ce pas? But try arguing that with posters who just quote scripture back at you.
Postulating an omnimax creator god has certain ramification which don't vanish no matter how many Bible verses you trow at it.

Omniscience not only means that this god knows exactly what will happen at any point in time but also why, i.e. he knows exactly what chain of events led to your decision X instead of Y at time T.
Taken together with this god's omnipotence it's completely unimaginable how his creation can make decisions which he didn't intend.

Of course one could argue that this god is either not omniscient or not omnipotent (or even both) but I don't think most believers want to concede these points.

So IMHO this seems to be just an other case of wanting to eat your cake and have it too.

763 posted on 08/20/2005 4:01:09 AM PDT by BMCDA (Whereof we cannot speak, thereof we must be silent. -- L. Wittgenstein)
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