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To: DaveTesla

Very wonderful quotes. But the world has changed in the past two hundred plus years. This is no longer a homogeneous society and no longer 95% Christian. I really don't know the percentages but the demographics of this country have changed and will continue to change. This ID is creationism and changing the name willl not change what this movement is promulgating. And that is a religious view of science. The two are best left separate in my opinion. One is faith, the other is objective evidence. And the only evidence for ID is faith. And faith has no place in schools or science.


452 posted on 08/18/2005 11:13:08 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl
And faith has no place in schools or science.

What an odd thing to say.
Of course, "faith", muslim style certainly doesn't, but otherwise faith is at worst charmingly harmless. There's nothing inherently confrontational in the concept and, historically on balance, it has had a beneficent effect on civilization.

479 posted on 08/18/2005 11:57:28 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: cajungirl
"And the only evidence for ID is faith. And faith has no place in schools or science."

As an engineer and a scientist I beg to differ with you.
As a layman (laywoman) because you hold a theory (evolution) as your fact you say that our theory has no place in the schools or science.

You would be probably telling that to the Wright brothers 100 years ago.

If I can make room for your THEORY why can't you make room for mine?

Yeah, present both sides. What are you afraid of?

As to the founding Fathers being of old, I guess we will
have to regress back to learn what they knew.
Didn't the come here in search of freedom of religious
and social beliefs?

To quote Winston Churchill,
The only thing you can learn in life is the history you
didn't already know.

What interests the champions of all the major progressives
- the radical naturalists, the Marxist / Communist, the multiculturalists,
and the sexual hedonists-is the destruction of the traditional
Judaeo-Christian family and culture. This is the tie that
binds. Christians and their values are all that stand in
the way of their creating their own heavens on earth. "In
a world without God," said Sartre (paraphrasing
Dostoevsky), "anything is permitted." That "anything"
includes deceit, dishonesty and murder.


By the way isn't that a pogrom of the left?
That times are different and and the principals that our nation was founded on and the constitution no longer applies.

I am tolerant of you.

Why would you wish to silence me.
488 posted on 08/19/2005 12:23:21 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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