[WildTurkey]

He no more created sin than the person that becomes a father does when he creates a kid, knowing full well the kid will sin.

uh, would a father sire a kid knowing he would grow up to be the BTK killer? God did.

[spunkets]

"uh, would a father sire a kid knowing he would grow up to be the BTK killer? God did."

God gave both life and Freedom unconditionally. There's a reason for that. He said that all who do not reject the Holy Spirit would be forgiven, those that do would not be forgiven. Folks choose their own destiny. God values life and Freedom. God came here in person to teach that. He was killed for doing so.

Some will tell you that God came to die to open the gates of heaven after they were closed, because of Adam's sin. That is not what He said. That's what some men say. The subject of John 9 that I gave you was the man born blind. God gave the reason he was born blind. The reasons are the same as why the BTK killer was allowed to live. Just as there are those that insist on spreading the guilt and responsibility of sin to innocent men, there are those that would spread it to God, in direct contradiction to His own words.

[furball4paws]

You certainly are in rare form tonight. But what would you say to a theist?

[mordo]

Would a father sire a kid knowing he would grow up to be the BTK killer? God did.

Thats more BS.. or your very .
But then if that phony argument is turned the 180 degrees, lots of howling will happen.