Posted on 08/18/2005 5:17:34 PM PDT by curiosity
What if someone told you there was an "optimal" road to travel to the cabin you rented at the top of a steep mountain?
You could go off the "optimal" road and you might get to your cabin.... then again.....
I think that saints are people who have, for the most part, kept to the optimal road.
I think most Christians keep quiet not because they are afraid those they lecture to about their truth being the only way will hate them. I think they have respect for others truths and value a civil society with tolerance for all.
The "truth of Jesus" is not everyone's truth, or did you notice?
Yes.Quite. Tah.
Can't prove it wrong any more than I could prove that you are not a cleverly designed space alien.
That's the point.
ID cannot be falsified by any mechanism because there is no possible research approach to do it.
Evolution can be...but it hasn't. That's why scientists continue to use it.
And evolution HAS????
Evolution is nothing without time becoming magical...if given enough time, of course.
So.. you are saying that there is predictability about the unpredictability...interesting.
And no evidence of one species morphing into another makes evolution require far more "faith" to believe...except it comes easier for those whose pride makes anything preferable to humbling themselves.
No worries, though. They mystery will be crystal clear to all one day...and EVERY knee will bend and EVERY head will bow.
Remember those words...they're going to be more thatn a "theory" to you some day.
Nope, you've got it backwards.
Go re-read my posts. With a Designer, intelligent or not so, what is true for organism A may not be so for any given organism B.
Studying them would be a potential exercise in futility.
Clearer?
Interesting...
The Physics of Chance and Necessity,Spring Semester, 1998
Course Description:
The course will introduce students to a wide range of important and beautiful concepts of physics, by emphasizing the role of probability and statistics in both classical and quantum physics. Early in this century, Einstein rejected the probabilistic interpretation of quantum physics with his famous statement: "I refuse to believe that God plays dice."Today, however, there is a general realization that while the universe is a lawful place, it is nonetheless a place in which chance plays a major role. Even in the domain of Newtonian physics, where determinism once was not doubted, the idea of a deterministic universe has had to be modified radically, and the behavior of many systems that are governed by Newtonian physics cannot be predicted accurately. By focusing on the theme of "chance", this course leads the student naturally through a very diverse range of topics.
Quantum biology?
I'm talking about biology. There is a reason there subjects are in different departments.
And the lack of predictablity when a creator or designer is involved is beasue the rules are different, not underlying features of the universe.
Which I'm pretty sure you know....
I'm done for today...planning a class on fungal behavior.
I understood what you wrote. You were predicting unpredictability would be a problem for believers in Intelligent Design.
The "truth of Jesus" is not everyone's truth, or did you notice?
If you mean "beliefs" when you say "truths" then you should say so. The two words are not intechangeable.
There is only one truth. Not two, not several. Just one. You can choose to believe that or not. Many don't.
Most Christians are not "afraid" that they will be hated. Not in this country at least. In other countries, sharing your Christian fate can be fatal. Many are willing to take that risk.
It is easier by far to keep your faith to yourself and just avoid the confrontations.
Unfortunately, that is not what Jesus asks us to do.
You know that many people do not believe what you are saying?
And you really are bullying here in my opinion. Your last sentence about remembering what you say and it would be more than a "theory" really was bullying. Shockingly bullying if you ask me.
But you don't ask others, you tell them.Because you possess the absolute truth.
I am saying your truths are your beliefs.
There is no truth here I do believe, only beliefs. A deeply held belief has the power of truth but not all hold your particular deeply held belief.
Used to be -- Physics, Chemistry, Biology.
Now --Biophysics, molecular biophysics, biochemistry and structural biology, chemical and molecular engineering, etc.....
This statement summarizes the silliness of the debate.
The two positions are not mutually exclusive, unless the goal is to bludgeon the other into adopting "your" position, when neither can be "scientifically" proven. Inferred perhaps, but not yet proven and not ever likely to be conclusively proven.
What an odd thing to say.
Of course, "faith", muslim style certainly doesn't, but otherwise faith is at worst charmingly harmless. There's nothing inherently confrontational in the concept and, historically on balance, it has had a beneficent effect on civilization.
Looks like Pious Twaddle's having a field day with this thread.
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