Posted on 08/18/2005 2:15:48 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
Not if you're the one saved by it.
I'm for anything good happening to me or you. But not to BTK. Someone who wants to do good things for BTK is NOT a good person.
give lucifer a hug when you meet him. blasphemer
Strange you don't know the meaning of "blasphemer". But, judging from your past remarks, no amount of ignorance should surprise me.
None of us are good persons (Rom.3:23) but Christ still died for us (Rom.5:8), including BTK.
Speak for yourself. I know plenty of good people.
Christ still died for us (Rom.5:8), including BTK.
Then his dad must not have told him what BTK was going to do. If he did, that was an irrational sacrifice.
This sympathy for a man who knowingly tortured to death innocent helpless people is really disurbing.
Not in comparison with God's perfect righteousness they aren't.
Know anyone who doesn't sin?
Christ still died for us (Rom.5:8), including BTK. Then his dad must not have told him what BTK was going to do. If he did, that was an irrational sacrifice. This sympathy for a man who knowingly tortured to death innocent helpless people is really disurbing.
There is no sympathy for BTK, we are discussing what Christ did for all of us.
In comparison to BTK they are saints.
Know anyone who doesn't sin?
It is offensive that you lump everyone who has ever sinned in with BTK.
There is no sympathy for BTK, we are discussing what Christ did for all of us.
We're talking about the possibility of BTK being forgiven by God and entering into Heaven.
We are discussing the fact that no one deserves to go to heaven.
And except for the blood of Christ, no one would. (Eph.1:7)
your own ignorance should be alarming to you and anyone with whom you associate.
Am not! LOL!
You must not have read the title of this thread then.
But again, thanks for lumping everyone in with BTK. You think you belong in the BTK club? Well, you know better than I.
In terms of falling short of the glory of God, yes, I am in the same category.
Are they so sure that he didn't kill anyone in another state?
Do you make any relevant moral distinction between you and a man who repeatedly and consciously kidnaps and slowly tortures to death innocent men and women? Or is one person's falling short the same as another's?
Look, with many there is probably no reasoning about religion, but clearly I do not share your sympathy for BTK. On its face it is abhorent to me, but we'll just have to agree that our value systems are quite different. I like the idea of Hell, and the idea of BTK being cast into its deepest depths.
In terms of salvation, God does not judge on a curve.
You are either saved or lost.
All deserve to be lost.
Now, there may be levels of punishment based on varying factors, but as for being saved or lost it is the simple fact that God views no man as sinless and thus, all men are lost unless they accept the free gift of salvation in Christ Jesus (who was the only sinless man who ever lived)
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