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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Hey All,

Here are two quotes coming out of the Administration. What has happened in the last year to change their minds??? Were they wrong then or are they wrong now?
And a better question for all Americans is what the hell do we do now? Stay the course? It is starting to look more and more like the outcome of the war will be an Islamic republic closely allied with Iran. I’m thinking “kick their as and steal their gas” just ain’t getting the job done.

"Administration critics are what we call the reality- based community, people who believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality. We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. We're history's actors ... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."
~Senior adviser to President Bush –NYT Magazine, Oct. 17, 2004.

"What we expected to achieve was never realistic given the timetable or what unfolded on the ground," "We are in a process of absorbing the factors of the situation we're in and shedding the unreality that dominated at the beginning."
~ Senior US official involved in policy since the 2003 invasion -Washington Post; August 14, 2005


186 posted on 08/18/2005 1:54:41 PM PDT by billyfd
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To: billyfd; Fawnn
Hey Billy...

Mash here.

Come back when you've got a little more substance. Like never.

196 posted on 08/18/2005 2:04:40 PM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: billyfd

Where do you get the idea we are stealing their gas? You been reading up at DU again? If we WANTED to steal their gas we damn well could.


198 posted on 08/18/2005 2:05:54 PM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: billyfd

Where do you get the idea we are stealing their gas? You been reading up at DU again? If we WANTED to steal their gas we damn well could.


199 posted on 08/18/2005 2:06:01 PM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: billyfd
Terrorism is just a tactic being used by Muslim religious fundamentalist to attack the United States.

Not just the United states....

207 posted on 08/18/2005 2:17:56 PM PDT by AZamericonnie (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ coming soon ~Operation Semper Fi ~a field hospital~)
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To: billyfd

Anyone who thinks Hanoi Kerry isn't behind the anti war crowd needs to get a clue.

Spineless US Senate would rather protect Hanoi Kerry
than deal with the anti war crowd.

It's time to support our troops and ignore the jelly fish in the US Senate!

Anyone who thinks Hanoi Kerry isn't behind the anti war crowd needs to get a clue.

There is no need to impeach Hanoi Kerry from the US Senate

He is there illegally!

WAKEUP AMERICA!

For those who "forgot" what Hanoi Kerry
did in the past read on and learn the truth.

Hanoi Kerry was still a USNR officer while he:
gave false hearsay testimony to Congress
negotiated with the enemy
helped the US lose a war
abetted in the deaths of millions
created a hostile environment for all servicemen

Why is Kerry still in the US Senate?
This is in violation of
U.S. Constitution Amendment 14 Sec 3
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.amendmentxiv.html

And the FBI has proof of his treason.

Hanoi Kerry Timeline of a traitor
includes FBI files

May 1970
Kerry and Julia traveled to Paris, France and met with Madame Nguyen Thi Binh, the Foreign Minister of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam (PRG), the political wing of the Vietcong, and other Viet Cong and Communist Vietnamese representatives to the Paris peace talks, a trip he now calls a "fact-finding" mission.

(U.S. code 18 U.S.C. 953, declares it illegal for a U.S. citizen to go abroad and negotiate with a foreign power.)

http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html

a) A person charged with absence without leave or missing movement in time of war,
or with any offense punishable by death,
may be tried at any time without limitation.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm#*%20843.%20ART.%2043.%20STATUTE%20OF%20LIMITATIONS

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236 posted on 08/18/2005 3:43:04 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Never Forget)
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To: billyfd
I’m thinking “kick their as and steal their gas” just ain’t getting the job done.

Such a policy would be a failure, I agree. The problem with your analysis is that this is not now and never has been the policy.

244 posted on 08/18/2005 4:29:11 PM PDT by Zhangliqun (Hating Bush does not count as a strategy for defeating Islamic terrorism.)
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To: billyfd

Another troll bites the dust.


263 posted on 08/18/2005 5:30:41 PM PDT by JLO
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To: billyfd
Anonymous sources quoted by the New York Times and the Washington Post aren't going to do it for me. In the first case, I simply don't believe it. In other words, the Times and the Post lie about the Bush administration to push their agendas, just like Dan Rather and CBS was caught red-handed doing.

Secondly, given all his speeches and various statements, neither of those two quotes fit President Bush's thinking on Iraq at all. He had made his case time and time again, and the American people endorsed the President's view on Iraq (and not some unnamed "senior" official) last year on November 2nd.

You lost, America won, get over it, i.e, MOVEON!

385 posted on 08/19/2005 3:51:49 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: billyfd
I love those unnamed "senior advisors."

Nevermind that they are invariably anti-American Democrats that we have to work with.

395 posted on 08/19/2005 6:22:03 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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